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szalkuskt
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posted October 04, 2005 04:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for szalkuskt   Click Here to Email szalkuskt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote      
I am looking for detailed photos of some one who cut their tunnel and welded in a manual trans hump on the tunnel from a donor car.I want to cut my automatic car and install a factory hump from a donor car so I can run a factory console in my 1979 Z28.I need some help. I see four dimples in my tunnel now. Any pictures of a maual car factory set up would help

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67lemanster
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posted October 04, 2005 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 67lemanster   Click Here to Email 67lemanster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Visit 67lemanster's Homepage!   View 67lemanster's car!
the factor tunnels are the same. the 4 speed has a bigger hole on the left naturally for the shifter. the hump is a bolt on piece. dont complicate a simple process. use what ya got and get the hump that bolts in just like all 2nd gens did.

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badazz81z28
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posted October 04, 2005 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for badazz81z28   Click Here to Email badazz81z28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Visit badazz81z28's Homepage!   View badazz81z28's car!
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Originally posted by 67lemanster:
the factor tunnels are the same. the 4 speed has a bigger hole on the left naturally for the shifter. the hump is a bolt on piece. dont complicate a simple process. use what ya got and get the hump that bolts in just like all 2nd gens did.



Actually the sec gen floor hump was spot welded in place not bolted. Be carfeful oce you chop the hole its chopped. What I did was hand the trans than cut the hole where it needs to be by where the trans is.

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that70'scar
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posted October 07, 2005 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for that70'scar   Click Here to Email that70'scar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote      
Soon I will be faced with the same task, but my hump came with enough metal around it that it has one of the dimples on the corner. If I get it mounted I will send pics to you. Its not that easy of a proccess, I have a hard time cutting a hole in the bottom of my car...its not like it that easy to cut another hole.

Good luck with the 79 z28

soon my 78 z28 will see the road again.

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amargari
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posted October 08, 2005 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amargari   Click Here to Email amargari     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Visit amargari's Homepage!   
I am in the middle of doing this process. For anyone that did this, does the bottom of the new hump, cover the old automatic shifter mounting holes? You can see the mounting holes in the below pictures:

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Mstrtch
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posted October 08, 2005 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mstrtch   Click Here to Email Mstrtch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Visit Mstrtch's Homepage!   View Mstrtch's car!
I used the console as a guide. Once you have the carpet and stuff out of the way you can lay the hump on the floor and it will almost set there once you find the spot. I never found any marks to show specifically where it went. I've done three of these swaps and I have never "missed" so it should be fairly easy. Like Tommy said, don't over complicate it.

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amargari
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posted October 09, 2005 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amargari   Click Here to Email amargari     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Visit amargari's Homepage!   
Mstrtch,
Unfortunately, I don't have a manual console to use as a template at this stage. I may not even use one, but I would like the hump in the correct position if I ever do.

-Thanks

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badazz81z28
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posted October 09, 2005 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for badazz81z28   Click Here to Email badazz81z28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Visit badazz81z28's Homepage!   View badazz81z28's car!
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Originally posted by amargari:
Mstrtch,
Unfortunately, I don't have a manual console to use as a template at this stage. I may not even use one, but I would like the hump in the correct position if I ever do.

-Thanks


What I did was line up the hump where it seems like its suppose to fit. Than when the tranny was mounted I cut a small hole big enough for the shifter. I gradually made it bigger intill it was the right size and in the right place. .

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szalkuskt
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posted October 10, 2005 03:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for szalkuskt   Click Here to Email szalkuskt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote      
Thanks everyone for the help. Anyone have a hump that they want to sell?The one in the photo looks new, amargari, where did you get it?

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badazz81z28
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posted October 10, 2005 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for badazz81z28   Click Here to Email badazz81z28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Visit badazz81z28's Homepage!   View badazz81z28's car!
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Originally posted by szalkuskt:
Thanks everyone for the help. Anyone have a hump that they want to sell?The one in the photo looks new, amargari, where did you get it?

Looks like one I got off Ebay. Cost about $50

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amargari
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posted October 10, 2005 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amargari   Click Here to Email amargari     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Visit amargari's Homepage!   
I got mine from here:
http://1967-81camarocarparts.com/order_parts.cfm

It is part number 701FFPT,, 4 Speed Shift Hump, 59.95 ea. It is not on their online ordering system. You have to call them to order it. It's on PAGE 10-11 of their 67-81 Camaro catalog.

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szalkuskt
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posted October 11, 2005 03:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for szalkuskt   Click Here to Email szalkuskt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote      
amargari, Thanks. for a few extra bucks than on ebay you can get a brand new one.How is the fit and quality of the one you got from the 67-81 dot com place?Have you bought alot of things from them? Never heard of them before myself.$59.95 is a little high but it is a needed item and if the fit is good, even more the reason to get one.Keep the photos coming of your installation, welding, etc. ANYBODY HAVE A 79 LIGHT BLUE 4 SPEED CONSOLE??? HELP!!!!!!!!

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amargari
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posted October 11, 2005 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amargari   Click Here to Email amargari     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Visit amargari's Homepage!   
szalkuskt,
I bought several things from them when I bought this piece. They were mostly odds and ends dealing with the 4 speed conversion. The company was great. When I ordered the parts he told me a few things were on backorder and would push the order back 2 weeks. A week and a half later all the stuff arrived. I appreciated their honesty and they delivered quicker than they said they did.

As for the car, I am done welding from the front seats back. The rear floors, outer wheel wells, trunk drop downs, trunk floor, quarter panels and tailpanel are done being installed. I have some body work to do but not much. I have now turned my attention to the front half of the shell. I have everything stripped in the dash and firewall area and have removed the front subframe from the car. The front shell needs the driver side front floor and toe board replaced. A small patch in the passenger side toe board. I have a hole to patch in the left front firewall. I need to repair a small section of the dashboard. Lastly, I want to smooth the passenger side of the firewall and fill as many holes in the firewall that I can.

Unfortunately, I will be taking that winter hiatus soon. I hope to have a couple of the front shell items done by then.

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http://www.apiem.com/camaro

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