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jacsey 70Z Member |
posted August 21, 2002 02:15 PM
   
I just recieved a matched set of wheels embossed caps and early rings. I bought them off ebay, Was told they have been together in storage for at least 25 years. The dates on the wheels and the size of the valve stem holes. when they went from 5/8" to 13/16" hopefully this will help. I did some camera work today hopefully they come out clear enough.  This is the 5/8" hole wheel, K10 6 4 on the outside of the rim there is just GM no letter.  This is a 13/16" hole K10 7 31 (the 1 is faint)with GM E on the outside.  The embossed caps are almost perfect!  The blue clips on early rings. Sorry so long, Jack
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CamarosRus Member |
posted August 21, 2002 02:41 PM
Jack, Absolutely outstanding post......I wish there were MORE members into this detail stuff.....So youre saying that the JUne 4th wheel had the smaller 5/8 hole and the July 31 st wheels had 13/16 holes.....I had thought someone had reported that the 13/16 changeover happened earlier during the 1970 Model run......go figure???? ... Chuck
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jacsey 70Z Member |
posted August 21, 2002 03:00 PM
Chuck, Thats the way I see it!! I was excited to see two wheels so close in dates and with differant size holes. Thought you would feel the same. It was a great find everything is in real great shape, Now if I have the guts to put the rings and caps on my car, afraid they could fly off or happen to come up missing!! Guess if it was a show where people would know what they were looking at then I would put them on. Jack
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DONNIE Member |
posted August 21, 2002 03:16 PM
Jack, a little off subject, but hows the reverse lock out rod coming along? ------------------
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jacsey 70Z Member |
posted August 21, 2002 03:58 PM
Donnie, I have the print for the lockout rod but to do it right with all the pinged ends done right and all the differant hardnesses. It is a very costly part to do, not sure there is that much demand out there. Besides I got scared when I heard on the board that someone else was doing them. But didn't hear anything after that. Maybe after I recoupe some more of my money from the muffler hangers. Jack
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CamarosRus Member |
posted September 05, 2002 06:29 PM
Do any the concours resto fan here have 1)any conclusions on how long the early 70 Z wheels had the SMALL 5/8" air stem clearance hole 2) Do you think they are vauuble and rare 3) On a judging basis should there be a deduct for not having correct dated wheels on a top quality car.....I DO !!!!!......Chuck
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jacsey 70Z Member |
posted September 05, 2002 07:43 PM
Chuck, I think we're getting pretty close with the above photo's. Sometime between 6/4 and 7/31 Yes I think there is a lot fewer of the 5/8 holes making them rarer. I think a diamond class car should have the correct dated wheels on them, just one more thing to seperate the good from the great. But when you start popping off trim rings on diamond class cars that might be a bit touchy!! I wouldn't want to be the one with the BIG screwdriver!!!! Jack
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CamarosRus Member |
posted September 06, 2002 05:48 PM
Did anyone else see the EARLY 1970 Z-28 wheels (No Rings or Caps) with the SMALL 5/8" holes that just sold on EBAY for over $225......relative to most "other" Z-28 wheels that sell that was pretty spendy.....I was one of the bidders, but since my 70 Z was built VERY LATE (07E) I decided not to bid them higher.....I wrote the buyer outa curiosity but havent heard back yet.....Later, Chuck
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spicewood1 Member |
posted September 07, 2002 08:20 AM
If you mean the ones in red primer I thought it a bit high too. Perhaps the bidder was paying in advance for all the sanding trouble. That seller always seems to have great parts and bidders seem to bid higher on his auctions. But that is also the guy who screwed me over on an original Holley - I returned the part, he kept the money $380.00.
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Ricks 72Z28 unregistered |
posted September 08, 2002 09:36 AM
 
Jack,Chuck I have a early set of 5 rims that had come from the same car.They were dated as 3 @K10 3 10 and two @K10 4 23.All 5 have the 5/8 opening together.
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CamarosRus Member |
posted September 08, 2002 09:47 AM
Rick, Are you just stating that you have them or FOR SALE......anyway interesting to hear the dates because at some point I'd like to come up with the window of time when Kelsey Hayes switched there mfg process from 5/8" to 13/16" on the clearance hole...Not earth shattering news but for resto judging it would be nice to have "CORRECT" version of AU wheels on whatever build date 70 Z-28 you might have....Another thing RICK, with you having THREE 5/8" wheels built on March 10th and TWO built on April 23rd (6 weeks apart) very hard to imagine these could have been installed on same car.....but obviosly "ANYTHINGS POSSIBLE" at the good ole Camaro Plant.......later, Chuck
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Ricks 72Z28 unregistered |
posted September 08, 2002 10:45 AM
Chuck sent you some pictures showing date codes and dimensions,not really sure how to post on the site here for everyone to see.The rims are For Sale if anyone is interested/ E-mail for details and pictures. Rick
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spicewood1 Member |
posted September 13, 2002 06:35 PM
Just today at the Charlotte show I picked up 2 of the smaller hole wheels both dated the same as the above - K10 6 4 AU. Gave $50 for the pair. Trouble is, that is about 2 weeks late for my last week May car.
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CamarosRus Member |
posted September 14, 2002 06:37 AM
Spicewood, Given how difficult it is too find these ONE year only 5/8" wheels I'd install them.....Seeing as how you cant read the dates with trim rings installed its more important to have the correct appearance than the date......From my judging opinion if a guy has the correct dated spare, then I'll give him the points for all FIVE wheels.....seeing as how difficult to remove trim rings at a show.....How are you doing on finding FIRST design trim rings and Correct BowTie center caps ??????.....Chuck
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spicewood1 Member |
posted September 14, 2002 08:38 AM
So far I have 1 complete good set of the early rings, but only 3 caps and they need the blue redone. Observation about the wheels I got yesterday - I gave them a thorough cleaning and they have deteriorated but original finish. The entire back side appears to be the original dove gray color, and also the front side in the trim ring slot as well. The 5 spoke area is of course the suede finish. It looks like the factory must have had a production line "mask template" because there is almost no visible evidence of overspray on the different paints. Am I right on this ? When I see these wheels for sale restored at shows, they are usually black on the back side, which would be wrong. Right ?
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