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dave 1987 Veteran Member |
posted July 04, 2005 01:13 PM
   
I got a 1974 Z28 it all original but the ATrac. It a 350 L82 corvette motor with a 4 speed Muncy i don't much about the tranmission codes i think it a M21 or M22 if you know tell me. When i get photo ready i post them so you can see what my Z28 looks like and my clone im builting. The clone is a L6 car it had no motor or tranny in it when i bought the car. So i decide to clone a Z28 but the motor came out of a 1969 SS350 and tranmission is coming out of a chevelle ss454. The chevelle was my uncles he drop a 4 speed in the car and the camaro was junk so i bought the motor for $100 dollars and it was a buy. Dave 1987 ------------------
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rich m Veteran Member |
posted July 04, 2005 06:36 PM
Awesome pics, Dan, thank you! Your car looks great, did you put out any display material? That brown car is beautiful. I can't believe he didn't think it was worth putting in the show.
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Dirt Reynolds Veteran Member |
posted July 04, 2005 09:20 PM
No kidding, Rich. Very nice example of a brown '77. Dan - your car is stunning! Wish mine looked as good. If it wasnt so far built for the track, I'd seriously consider bringing it back to stock-appearing. ------------------
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rich m Veteran Member |
posted July 05, 2005 06:30 AM
Dirt, if I remember correctly, isn't your car silver as well? If so, no need to return it to original condition, just park it next to Dan's and you'll have it's "evil" twin!!!! (LOL). Dan, send Dirt a nice framed color pic of your car so he can put it on his wall and have it whenever he wishes his car were stock again!
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Dirt Reynolds Veteran Member |
posted July 05, 2005 09:48 PM
Yep - it's the 'Silver Bullet'.  I already have several of Dan's pics saved to my computer. Aero80 also had a silver '77 Z. Wonder what ever happened to him - he used to post on all the '77 Z topics here back a year or 2 ago. ------------------
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rich m Veteran Member |
posted July 06, 2005 12:47 AM
quote: Did a quick check, Aero80 slowed down his postings last fall though he most recently posted back in March of '05
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Adam G Veteran Member |
posted July 06, 2005 07:37 AM
 
Dan77, rich m, I finally got off my butt, and added some new pictures of my car. I thought you guys might be interested in seeing them. Adam http://www.cardomain.com/ride/752531
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rich m Veteran Member |
posted July 06, 2005 08:31 AM
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Did you say that was has 25K original miles on it? Just wondering if the underneath of the chassis has been refinished, it looks spotless? Also. your car is red with a black interior, which brings up an interesting question: The stripe kits on '77 Z's were color-keyed to the interior of the car. On a white car with a black interior, the stripes were and orange-red, with a tan interior, the white car got a tan stripe. Your car poses the point that a black interior car should have an orange-red stripe, but that would blend too much with the body color. Instead you seem to have the tan stripe. I'll need to check the color chart I have, but got to get off to work right now. Any other red '77 Z owners want to weigh in with their stripe info?
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Adam G Veteran Member |
posted July 06, 2005 05:18 PM
rich, Thanks very much for the compliments. The car actually turned 28k(original) recently. I have done some refinishing to the undercarriage. It didn't need much work, but I cleaned everything up, and re-spayed most of it with Eastwood products. Although, it's not perfect by detailed show standards. I'm debating doing the same thing to the engine. However, I just can't seem to bring myself to paint over the original grease pencil marks when I do it.
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Dan77 Veteran Member |
posted July 06, 2005 05:21 PM
Adam, your car is awesome!!!! Rich, think you are wrong about Adams stripe color. It looks like the red and orange stripe kit to me. Rich , I did see a 78 Z at the superfest, which was just like my 78. It was white wtih the gold and brown stripe package and had black interior. This car was an original paint car with low mileage. Maybe the black interior only being available with the red and orange stripe package , only held true for 77 and not 78.
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rich m Veteran Member |
posted July 06, 2005 07:39 PM
Adan, do you have any more detailed photo's of the grease pencil marks? We had a discussion over a year ago about some cars having "Z28" written on one valve cover. Dan, I'll re-post that stripe color chart for all to see. One thing we've all learned about factories and what they did, is that anything is/was possible! Here is the page right out of the Dealer Sales Album mid-year Z28 insert: http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/511000-511999/511223_7_full.jpg It appears that there were four different stripe combinations: #1 Brown/Light Gold Here's how the chart reads: Black: - Black or White -#3 Brown: - Buckskin Only -#1 Orange: - Buckskin Only -#1 Red: -Black or White -#3 Silver: -Black or White -#2 White: -Buckskin -#1 Yellow: -Black or White -#4 Now, given those available choices, has anyone ever actually seen a red, black, silver or yellow car with a white interior? I've probably seen as many '77 Z28's as anyone since they were new, and I don't think I've ever seen any of those combinations. Yet, I could swear that I have seen a yellow car with buckskin interior which wasn't supposed to be available!
[This message has been edited by rich m (edited July 06, 2005).]
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rich m Veteran Member |
posted July 06, 2005 08:02 PM
Sorry if that chart is a little jumbled together, I can't get it to post the way I wanted to. Dan, please note that the white car with black interior is in fact supposed to have the red/orange stripes, not the tan. That doesn't mean it didn't happen, after all, anything was possible (and I don't think it would look bad, either!)
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Adam G Veteran Member |
posted July 06, 2005 08:42 PM
Rich / Dan, Dan is correct, the stripe is the orange/red color combination. You really can't see the red, as it blends in with the base color of the car, leaving really just the orange to see. As far as the grease pencil marks, I believe these cars came with just one under the hood. That's the one on the drivers side valve cover(a number 19 in one of my pictures). I noticed this number on Jeff Betz's yellow '77(the car at this years Carlisle, his has a number 32). He explainned to me that those were put on there before the engines were installed on the assy. line, as part of an engine test procedure. What I want to re-create now is the floresent green dab that should be on the rear differential cover, right on the dimple. I noticed this in Jeff's old scrap book with the yellow car at Carlisle last month.
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rich m Veteran Member |
posted July 06, 2005 11:18 PM
I have had some of this literature for so long, that I have forgotten a lot about some of it. For example: That stripe combo list I posted shows the letter "R" for the recommended stripe package to different interior/exterior combinations. That "R" is for "recommended" combinations, doesn't mean that something different couldn't have been ordered or specified!
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rich m Veteran Member |
posted July 06, 2005 11:38 PM
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