Also, on Nastyz28.com there is a section on Steering column etc, and there were actually 2 different models of column shift for the 77 camaro. On a silver Z they would have painted the bumpers and not left them chrome?

I will post the cowl tag info this afternoon when I get back from the shop.

Here is the url for the info on the column shift.
http://www.nastyz28.com/2gcog/steercol.html

Shawn

ST77 1FQ87 N 177413 BDY

19R A51 13L 13U PNT

04A Z28 BLK

460080

That is all I have.

Kenny: Can't wait to get your info, in the meantime, stay low and don't drink the water!

COPO: Thanks for your offer to host pics for me. If I can't get it done soon, I'll send them via e-mail. And thanks for helping Shawn with your friend's name.

Shawn: I'd say, based on the cowl tag, that it was a Norwood built Z, built first week of April, and somewhere along the line it got quite hacked around (col. shift, chrome bumpers and trim, etc.) Mom may have owned it since it was two years old, but someone must have gotten their hands on it somewhere, and maybe you were too young to know. Still, pop for the VIN check that COPO referred you to, and let us know how the documentation goes!

Big Dave: I know very little about second gen Camaros in general, so I must take your word for it about collumn shifters in general. However, on 1977 Camaro's (and Z28's in particular!), here's what I DO know ... after reading a bunch of factory material on the Z28 in particular, and the Camaro in general:

None of the factory literature, N-O-N-E, ever states ANYWHERE that the Z28, whether automatic or manual trannies, comes with a floor mounted shifter. That surprised the hell out of me!

Further, if you look closely at the interior photo of the base Sport Coupe in the Camaro brochure (page 3), it specifically shows a bucket seat Camaro interior, WITH a collumn mounted automatic shifter!!!!

However, I also can't find any reference as to an option that moves the shifter to the floor, either (except for the console option, which automatically gives you the floor mounted shifter, but if you just wanted a floor mounted shifter WITHOUT a console, I see no option listed to do so).

All that being said, one could surmise that all Z28's (at least the automatic tranny ones) were offered standard equipment with a collumn mounted shifter. Yet every single one of the 3 dozen or so cars I have personaly seen (and the countless cars I've seen listed for sale over the years all over the country!) have had a floor mounted shifter. Are we to believe then that every single Z28 ordered brand new was ordered with the floor mount shifter option that doesn't seem to be listed anywhere as an option in the first place? Now, I am sure that not every Z28 was built with a console, as that was an option (in fact, my own car was accidentally ordered without a console at first, so I know that the console wasn't standard equipment on a Z28!).

That leads me to two questions:
1) Has anyone ever actually seen (or seen listed for sale anywhere) a 1977 Z28 with a collumn mounted shifter, whether an automatic or a 4 speed??

2) Has anyone ever seen a floor mounted shifter (especially an automatic tranny car!) WITHOUT a console?????

Dan, I'm pretty sure I saw one or two without consoles myself, as well. Would love to see a photo of a '77 Z without a console (according to COPO though, it could only be a manual tranny car!), or an automatic collumn shift car!

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Originally posted by Dirt Reynolds:

COPO: The dash is actually correct - it was part of some appearance option on the '77 Z's. My silver '77 has this same dash. I thought it looked out of place too when I first bought my car, but its the factory dash panel. Strange it would be brown or some type of genuine imitation woodgrain kind of thing on a car like a Z28.

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Here's my interior shot of my silver '77 and it doesn't look like it.

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Originally posted by nwz28:
Dirt, The Interior Decor/Quiet Sound Group consisted of the following: glove compartment light and additional instrument cluster lighting; simulated leather applique on instrument cluster; special engine compartment, hood, and interior insulation. All this for $57.00. Also, this was standard on the Type LT. My '77 Z has this group.
-Nick

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I just looked it up in the order guide and I didn't order it. It's RPO Z54.