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sharon77 Veteran Member |
I tried to get a title search for my car, but my state only goes back to mid 80's. A Q about the 4 speed trani. Mine has a very short throw between gears...ie. 2 to 4 is just a roll of the wrist. Were they all like that? |
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rich m Veteran Member |
Hope you all enjoy this: and this: The first image is the cover of a very rare and not well known 8 page brochure from Chevrolet in 1977, entitled "The Sportiest Chevy's". The second is the inside page about the new 1977 Z28 from that brochure. Enjoy! [This message has been edited by Eric (edited March 26, 2004).] |
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rich m Veteran Member |
By the way, I heard back today from Richard Benyo, who wrote a review of the '77 Z for Super Stock magazine, based on his experience at the Daytona "Press Party" intro that year. He's offered his help with info, as has Judy Stropus, ex Chevy PR rep, who has offered much Chevy material that she has collected over the years. I'll keep all informed. Thanks guys! [This message has been edited by Eric (edited March 26, 2004).] |
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william Veteran Member |
Considering 77 Z-28's, i was glad chevy brought them back, they should have never dropped them in the first place. However, i feel chevy could have done a much better job in the appearance dept. than just a decal package. Granted 78 and 79 wasn't much better, fake scoop and such. The TA had fresh air hoods from the start, and after the scoop was closed off it didn't take much effort to make it functional again in later TA's. The Z-28 hoods from 80-81 should have been made available to the Z much sooner. ------------------ |
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JJFarmer Veteran Member |
I believe that if the Z28 package had not been brought back in 1977, the Camaro would have been discontinued long ago. The big hair or the mulet would not have looked the same in the 80's in a regular Camaro, you had to have the Z28. (LOL) To bad that GM didn't hire any creative minds for a 5th generation body change. [This message has been edited by JJFarmer (edited February 27, 2004).] |
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Dan77 Veteran Member |
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Dan77 Veteran Member |
quote: Thanks for update Rich. I am not trying to rush you or anything I just, wanted to know if it will happen. I have loved these cars since they were new and the registry and magazine article would be sweet after all these years of being alone on my love affair with the 77Z Thanks again to everyone who has contributed to this wealth of knowledge. Dan [This message has been edited by Dan77 (edited February 27, 2004).] [This message has been edited by Dan77 (edited February 27, 2004).] |
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COPO Veteran Member |
Did all Cnadian and US cars all have the Cat Converter? ------------------ |
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Jeff77Z28 Veteran Member |
As far as CATS and AIRS and other emission items...Once Catalytic convertors were invented and implemented they have been here to stay. They are the single biggest bang for the buck. They started off very expensive (platinum pellets) and have gotten cheaper, but are still relatively expensive but very very effective. The AIR system is nowhere as effective and only used to further clean up emissions. AIR comes and goes, so does EGR. Some engine designs don't respond well to EGR and are considered "EGR intollerant" meaning that it doesn't help. CATs came in 1975 and have never left since. They've only gotten better. Without getting into engineering stuff this is the facts. Jeff |
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Dirt Reynolds Veteran Member |
The purpose of the AIR pump is to heat the cat up as quickly as possible at cold start, and for certain driving situations, like low -RPM creeping along in a traffic jam, etc. It is very effective at keeping the cat good and hot, which reduces emmitants. ------------------ |
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rich m Veteran Member |
Not to stray too far off topic (lest this get sent to a different section of the board), I've read extensively on the subject of "clean emissions", and the simple fact is that cats, EGR's, and smog pumps are all a simple band-aid. There used to be a guy who wrote extensively on the technical end of this for a magazine, and he conclusively proved time after time that there are better and cheaper ways to get cars to pollute less, more effectively. I probably still have many of those articles, but they would be off topic and long winded anyway. Now, back to the subject of '77 Z28's..... Dan, the registry will definitely happen down the road, we've come too far now not to. And we all know too well how it feels to think you are the lone enthusiast out there. You're alone no more, my friend! Memo to all: I've been having trouble uploading more photo's and documents onto cardomain.com . My file may be too full, and maybe that takes too much time on my girlfriend's dial-up and I end up getting "logged out" of the session now before the image is stored. So, bear with me. Dirt, I've got some neat stuff for you silver car owners still to come, soon as I get it uploaded! [This message has been edited by rich m (edited February 28, 2004).] |
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Dirt Reynolds Veteran Member |
Sounds good, Rich. I know you mentioned you had some good stuff for us silver Z guys, can't wait to see it! ------------------ |
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rich m Veteran Member |
Pssssstt ...... Is Eric looking??? (whisper; don't look now Dirt, but you got post number evensay undredhay .... keep it quiet and "under the radar) Lol.... |
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rich m Veteran Member |
Shawn (Slug) Just a second before I head out the door: Please e-mail me today with: Your VIN Your cowl tag info (as it reads on the tag) Does your car have:chrome bumers?chrome trim around the headlight buckets or around the taillights? chrome window trim?brushed aluminum taillight panel? Does your car have front AND rear sway bars? What diameter? The original steering wheel? (if yes, does it have "Z28" in the center? I have NEVER actually seen ANY Camaro with a collumn shift, let alone a Z28! Talk to you later (I'm laaaaaaaate!!!!!) |
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rich m Veteran Member |
OK, it's late but I have a little time to address something for a fellow poster (anyone who refers to me as a '77 Z28 "Guru" is OK in my book!!!LOL). 77SLUG (Shawn) is wondering whether his car is an authentic '77 Z28 or not. Shawn's Mom bought the car two years old in Ontario, and it's been in the family since. The car is a bit long in the tooth, and has been "modified" for a little "street action" (sway bars gone). It has 14" wheels with a 406 motor, new tranny, and a 4.88 rear (are you kidding me, a 4.88???). It has chrome bumpers, chrome taillight trim, no stripes or decals. The interior was gutted upon said "modifying", so no build sheet is in hand right now. Most unusual of all, it apparently has a factory shifter on the steering collumn!!! Shawn says the cowl tag does say Z28 on it, but is unable to verify that right now. It sounds like the car has an original equipment steering wheel that does have the Z28 logo on it, as well. OK Shawn; since your Mom bought the car just 2 years old, and at a Chevy dealership, it's not likely to have been altered by the dealership or before they got it, as they wouldn't have taken it in trade that way. So, the way she bought it is most likely the way it was built. Questions: Did the car EVER have the stripes or decals on it for a Z28? Are the 14" wheels factory or aftermarket mags? Did it always have chrome bumpers and chrome tailight trim? The emblem on the header panel,are the colors red, white and blue? Let's talk about the facts for a second. All Z28's were supposed to have body colored bumpers, not chrome. They were supposed to have color keyed stripes and ID logos, and the header emblem was the same colors (regular Camaro's had the R,W, & B emblem, but a Z28 could have had that changed over the years by damage replacement). They were supposed to have blacked out taillight trim, and body colored 5 spoke steel 15" sport rims. They did NOT have a collumn shift available (I don't think ANY '77 Camaro did!!!). Also, do you remember what type of exhaust the car had back then when she bought it (granted, you were just a kid!). The Z28 had the split exhaust behind the converter. One thing I can say by your VIN; the car is at least a 350-4Bbl 1977 car built in Norwood OH, which was known to stamp "Z28" on the cowl tags, so it's imperative that you double check that tag, especially since the build sheet is missing. If the car was bought 2 years old at a Chevy dealership, with chrome bumpers and a collumn shift, my inclination is to say it's NOT a factory Z28. But your car MAY be an exception, who knows? Most importantly, if the car was originally sold new in Canada, then Chevrolet of Canada can run your VIN and provide you with a build sheet reprint and other original paperwork, if I remember some of the posts here correctly. If any of you folks can point Shawn in the right direction, it would be a big help for all of us. Hope this helps a bit, Shawn, keep us posted! Good luck. |
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