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tallman1970@yahoo.com
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posted February 07, 2004 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tallman1970@yahoo.com   Click Here to Email tallman1970@yahoo.com     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote      View tallman1970@yahoo.com's car!
Thank you very much Dakdawn for helping me post this photo of this car,Nice ride also you have.
77Z28 owners I found this in this old camaro book that came out in 1981 I thought id bring it to everyones attention.This color wasn't available however this book lists this light-blue.I thought it looked very good to post here because 77Z28 is a sweet ride."G"

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Dan77
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posted February 07, 2004 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dan77   Click Here to Email Dan77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Visit Dan77's Homepage!   View Dan77's car!
Rich I have build sheet, window sticker, and 4 pages from Gm of Canada on my car. I will try to get it sent to you by sunday night. By the way , what are you going to do with all this info? Dan

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71rs,72rs,73lt
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posted February 07, 2004 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 71rs,72rs,73lt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote      
Are those front spoilers 3 piece, then?

What is the axle code for a '77Z auto? CM=3.42 posi?

Thanks.

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rich m
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posted February 07, 2004 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rich m   Click Here to Email rich m     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote      
quote:
Originally posted by 71rs,72rs,73lt:

What is the axle code for a '77Z auto? CM=3.42 posi?

Thanks.


Do you mean the code number that is on the axle, the build sheet, or where? I have some paperwork from Chevrolet for the 1977 Camaro, but it's the early set, not the later "revised for the Z28" set, and it lists codes of PT for the 2.56, PU for the 2.73, and PW for the 3.08 Nothing is listed for the 3.42 or 3.73, as they weren't available when these papers were released in Sept. 1976.

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Originally posted by Dan77:

Rich I have build sheet, window sticker, and 4 pages from Gm of Canada on my car. I will try to get it sent to you by sunday night. By the way , what are you going to do with all this info? Dan


Dan, I'm going to start researching codes, all kinds of codes.What kind of stuff went on a window sticker, what info should be where on a build sheet and what it is there for, sequential numbers, all kinds of codes. All of this is to help figure out more and more info on these cars, and share it with each other. Also for general interest to share, how common were varios options, what were some of the more unusual items, things like that. We need to build some sort of "data bank" of info on these cars, without compromising anyone's privacy.

By the way,tallman, that is an incredible looking light blue '77Z! That's not supposed to be a factory painted combo though, is it?


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sharon77
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posted February 07, 2004 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sharon77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote      
Yes the front spoiler is 3 piece. The corner pieces are plastic and the center bit feels like a hard rubber.

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rich m
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posted February 08, 2004 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rich m   Click Here to Email rich m     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote      
Before I head of to work this morning, let me leave you with this little tidbit. Did you know that once Chevrolet decided to bring back a performance model to go after some of the Trans Am sales Pontiac was getting, their first thought wasn't to bring back the Z28 .......? Check this out (from Gary Witzengurg's out of print book "Camaro! From Challenger to Champion");


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tallman1970@yahoo.com
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The Photo of the BlueZ28 was taken sometime in 1980,It was a old Camaro book I had for sometime.

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COPO
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how do I reply with a quote? anyways.
Rich, was that the brochure that customers could pick up from the rack and take home with them?

No, this was the actual order guide pages the dealer had and they were also in the GM Office where I worked for GM Salaried people to borrow when they wanted to order a direct sale car with the discount.

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Mark
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Home Page on 1970 Z28
http://members.rogers.com/mlvd/

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JJFarmer
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What are the rear axle codes (numbers on the housing) on the 77 Z28? Anybody? This site doesn't list the 77 codes for a Z28.

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Dan77
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ATTN Rich M , Just sent my data on my 77 Z to your email, Dan

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rich m
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posted February 09, 2004 12:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rich m   Click Here to Email rich m     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote      
quote:
Originally posted by JJFarmer:
What are the rear axle codes (numbers on the housing) on the 77 Z28? Anybody? This site doesn't list the 77 codes for a Z28.

John, what is the code on the axle you have? Maybe other owners of automatic Z's can verify yours through their code number? How about you 4 speed owners, anyone get under their car and check their codes yet?

Dan, thanks for the email!

COPO, could you scan and e-mail those pages to me? Thanks.

Tallman, do you remember which book that blue Z was in? Just curious.


Dakdawn, thanks for offering help to COPO on quoting.

Hey, what did you all think about that '77 Camaro "SS" proposal?

Anyone interested in seeing two proposed hood decal designs for the '77 Z28 that were rejected?

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71rs,72rs,73lt
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I went and looked at a yellow '77Z yesterday. It's on autotrader online for 1950 obo in the Fort Worth area.

It needs EVERYTHING!

I think it's a real Z, though.

Here's my take on it . . .

Build month was June (I think), missing front spoiler. No decal on hood (replaced?), not factory air cleaner, no grill Z28 emblem. Rust starting in both rear quarters and bottoms of front fenders. Pass floor patched w/fiberglass. Door hinges BADDDDDD! Auto car w/tilt wheel, fact. a/c, rear window defogger. It did have factory rear swaybar mounts (after market rear swaybar, though), missing center caps on wheels. Interior needs to be taken out and thrown away! Windshield cracked, grill missing many teeth. Back window leaking.

There was NO Z28 stamped on the trim tag, but it had enough there, that I think it was a real Z. It did have decals on front fenders, rear spoiler and around the body and wheel wells. It did have rear swaybar. It was built in June (or July, I forget), and the VIN did have the "L" for 350 4 barrel. It did have guage package, and Z28 horn button. It did have a front spoiler on it at 1 time, etc., etc.

Originally purchased in Fort Worth, and it had the original warranty pamphlet w/stickers in it that had the vin printed on them. Also had the original owners manual.

Here's the phone number if anyone is interested in it: 817-244-3116.

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COPO
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posted February 09, 2004 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for COPO   Click Here to Email COPO     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Visit COPO's Homepage!   View COPO's car!
Rich, you have mail.

Mark

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hotrodman76
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Rich I did not mean to imply or say you were wrong .I sold a 77 camaro in aug. that looked like a Z28 was posted in the swap meet section in dec. or jan.as a Z28 it had all the looks except it had the 78 style hood it was a nice looking car although it did not have front spoiler it had the wrong 4 speed trans reverse was not next to 1st gear it was next to 4th as I say this car had alot of problems that could not be seen from the pictures with rust ,it also did not have the blacked out window molding I pid 3800 for the car took the 342 gears eaton 3rd, 750 demon carb ,msd distbfore i sold it for 2800 to help complete my 76 LT back when I fisst posted at page 31 the trim tag on this car was 1FQ87L7 ALSO DID NOT SAY 1FS, far as the vin issue my mistake apprently had my head in my A%$ .ON GM builds nums I was going off posted info on this site and stegmillers.

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rich m
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Thanks to all for forwarding their info and documentation. Keep it coming! I'm setting up a separate file on my computer to track everything.

Hotrodman, not a problem, buddy, I've been wrong plenty of times in my life and will be again soon! I'm learning as we go just like everyone else.

71rs, that '77 Z28 sure sounds rough, doesn't it? Hope it finds a home none the less.

Thanks to all of you for participating in this thread and in this project! Got a nice treat for you, now!

When Chevrolet decided not to bring back the SS, but the Z28 instead, they obviously had the Trans Am market in mind, as witnessed by these early hood design proposals!:


and how about this one:

Think they wound up making the right choice? Have no idea what the rest of the graphics were supposed to look like with these two choices. Not sure what the date of the designs were or how far into the Z28 project these were done.

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