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JJFarmer Veteran Member |
posted February 01, 2004 05:53 PM
    
Just checked the trim tag on the 77 Z28 that I got out of the bone yard. How about a 08A build code but it's a Norwood car. Must be one of the last cars made.
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sharon77 Veteran Member |
posted February 01, 2004 09:27 PM
I just checked to see if I was remembering right. The spotters guide on this site for the 77 states that this was the first year the Z28 was it's own model, not just an RPO. I tend to take Madmike as my Guru on all things Camaro  At least the game has had 2 interesting min.
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rich m Veteran Member |
posted February 01, 2004 11:14 PM
Yeeeeeeeeaaaaaaa Pat's!!!!! Whew, those Panthers really played them tough! Never thought Jake Dehomme had that kind of game in him, and some of the catches those receivers made were simply awesome! Hats off to them, they played it hard! Duece, I'm sure by checking off the right options,you could in effect have a Z28 with all (or most) of the LT equipment. But it still wouldn't actually BE an LT. Mikey, I'd love to hear more about your car. The way to authenticate an LT Z28, if it exists, would be to see that 1FS87 on the cowl tag or in block #76 of the build sheet, as far as I know. And to the best of my knowledge, a true factory Z28 would have the Z28 button on both the horn button AND the power window/crank handle cover button, even if it were in fact an LT. JJ, thanks for the info on the build date. I'll be asking you more about that car's info later! Mad Mike, please check in with this "Separate Model/ Only an Option" issue, and please offer your sources for this. I'll gladly offer up any literature I can to help solve this question. Thanks.
[This message has been edited by rich m (edited February 05, 2004).]
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kenny77 Veteran Member |
posted February 01, 2004 11:42 PM
 
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I have a April 1977 Car and Driver article with specs directly from GM that lists the building of the 77 Z28 as a BASE CAMARO with the Z28 OPTION. And then the other optional equipment follows. Thus the LT was also a seperate package. Base Camaro,LT Package. You could not have a LT Package with a Z28 package. It's important to look at the wording PACKAGE!! Package does not mean option it the way you want. Package means you take it with all the equipment. And THEN you can add options onto the car. Once again...the Z28 was a Base Camaro with a Z28 package. You can't have a Z28 and an LT package together. This probally explains why in last 27 years I have never seen or even heard of such a model. I'm going to scan and post the link here in a second>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ken Here is the link to the article info, Note that it says, OPTIONS ON TEST CAR: Base Camaro, Z28 Package, Air Conditoning, ect http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/camaropigs2000/detail?.dir=/My+Photos&.dnm=917f.jpg [This message has been edited by kenny77 (edited February 02, 2004).]
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yesfan2000 Veteran Member |
posted February 02, 2004 01:24 AM
I was wondering if anyone knows how high the bumpers for a '77 Camaro are from the ground? I'm looking for measurements from the pavement to the bottom of the front drivers, the front passenger, the rear drivers and the rear passenger. Thanks. dave
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rich m Veteran Member |
posted February 02, 2004 01:38 AM
quote: Dave, that would have to depend on several things: Was the car a 6 cyl. or V8? Did it have a/c or not, and was it a standard suspension, F41, or Z28 suspension. All of these things would affect the spring rate and possibly the height the car sat at.
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Major Dad unregistered |
posted February 02, 2004 09:26 AM
quote: Rich, my 77 Z has a build date of 02C. It could be one of (if not the) first Z28 built in 1977. I wish there was a way to tell....... [This message has been edited by Major Dad (edited February 02, 2004).]
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hotrodman76 Veteran Member |
posted February 02, 2004 01:25 PM
acording to gm they did not reopp the z till mid 77 that is from gm resto papers direct from gm + the car in the link does`nt have the right hood
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Major Dad unregistered |
posted February 02, 2004 01:37 PM
quote: Yes, mid 77 of the production year, not calendar year. Which link are you referring to regarding the hood?
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kenny77 Veteran Member |
posted February 02, 2004 03:49 PM
If it's the link that I posted, those other pictures in the album are of my car, not the one in the article. Even though they are the same color. I do have a 78 hood and 78 T/A seats in the car. I do have the original invoice, build sheet,cowl tag with the car. #11 with a black interior.I'm the second owner and it was a complete car on it's way to the scrap yard when I bought it. It was built the second week of May 77 in the Norwood plant...and had the RUST to prove it.>>>>>>>>Ken
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Als78z28 Veteran Member |
posted February 02, 2004 07:48 PM
quote: I don't know if you're talking about the link to mojor dad's car, but if your are, you're wrong. From the link, you can't tell what kind of hood it's got, but it won't be the teardrop style like on the 78 & 79's. In 77 they were just regular hoods with teardrop striping. In my opinion, major dad's looks like a genuine Z28.
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hotrodman76 Veteran Member |
posted February 02, 2004 07:48 PM
yes i ment model year .the link came off kenny 77
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hotrodman76 Veteran Member |
posted February 02, 2004 08:01 PM
oh sorry I MISUNDERSOOD MY FAULT did not mean anything about it. just corn fused there has been some much info posted and a lot of myth the gm restoration sheets from gm are about 97% there they should answer most peoples questions they were free when sent for mine last year and yes I think your right about major dads [This message has been edited by hotrodman76 (edited February 02, 2004).]
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Major Dad unregistered |
posted February 02, 2004 09:20 PM
Here's the cowl tag for the 77 Z : ST 77 1FQ87 N 131510 BDY The last 6 digits of the VIN match the last 6 digits on the engine block pad near the alternator. The engine code is V0203CHZ. Hope this helps - Shane
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rich m Veteran Member |
posted February 03, 2004 09:28 AM
To Major Dad: Shane, that is in fact the earliest build date I have ever encountered for a '77 Z! I am not sure exactly when the line started cranking them out, but I believe there were several production cars at Daytona for the SpeedWeeks introduction in Mid-Feb. These weren't "pre-production" cars as far as I can tell. I'd like to contact some of the writers from various car magazines who were there, and get their recollections of that event. Many of them are still writing somewhere, and shouldn't be hard to find. Duece, part of the purpose for this thread is to separate myth from fact. The way to do that is with factual information. I have a lot of printed material from Chevrolet themselves that I am drawing on. It's taking me a while to get copies of that posted here. Besides being "technically challenged" on the computer, my recent work schedule has not allowed much time for me to experiment with downloading the material. Maybe tonight.
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