I had both a 76 and 77 T/A and they both had the same 2 pc door panels....that's why I think the 1 pc panel came out in 78,

I've never seen a 1977 Z28 with power windows, but from what I saw in an ad it had the same Z28 logo on the window crank covers as what is in the center of my steering wheel. That's another reason why I think your panels may have been from a later like 78 car.

BTW my sister had a mint 1977 LT with.....power windows and 2 pc panels and the LT emblem on the door.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ken

JJ, glad you bought that boneyard car. Did you find a build sheet?

Dan, I've seen a few of the orange cars over the years (including one of two new '77 Z's at Ft.Polk LA back in '77). They weren't really all that metallic looking, nor a very bright "Hugger" orange color either.

Kenny, I owned a '77 "beater" Z28 back in the late '80s (to keep my Turbo Buick off the road in winter!). It had power windows, and had a round Z28 logo over the hole where the crank handle would have gone. The car was way too rough to be restored back then, so it was sold. Kept the build sheet from it though, and recorded the cowl tag info.

We are all aware that the '77 Z came in just seven different colors, right? Well, there is an insert page for the Z28 (in black and white) that was a mid-year addition to the Dealer Book, and it mentions that the Z28 comes in a "Choice of 10 Camaro Magic-Mirror exterior colors" !!! I have a second version of that same sheet that clearly states "Choice of 7 Camaro Magic-Mirror exterior colors"!!! The second sheet states that those colors are named on the back of the sheet, which they are, and they're the 7 colors we are all familiar with. The first sheet doesn't say they are on the back of the sheet, and the back of that sheet is blank anyway!

The first sheet has one other item that the second sheet doesn't, and that says: "Custom interior available at extra cost (Includes deluxe high-back bucket seats with sidewall trim; special armrests; map pockets in doors; color-keyed instrument panel, steering wheel and column; simulated leather instrument cluster facing). This might be what you are referring to, Nick.

This paragraph is NOT in the second copy of the very same sheet that I have!!!! It's this second copy that also lists the stripe color combo's for each exterior/interior color combination (ie: a brown car with buckskin interior got a different colored set of stripes than a brown car with a black interior car).

I never noticed that before, and I've had this for sometime now! Wonder what that was all about? Was it a simple mistake, or did Chevy plan on 3 other colors for this car? If so, wonder what they were, or why they were dropped? (Maybe because of the limited stripe combo packages?)

A different insert page (in color, showing a yellow Z) also says "Select from seven Magic-Mirror acrylic exterior finishes" !

Also, Nick, on a page applicable to all Camaro's. there is a heading that says "Available Options", and lists option "Z28 Equipment", RPO number Z28, and shows a "dot" under a column for both the Type LT and the Sport Coupe for availability. This page uses a "Std." for standard equipment, a "NA" for not available, and a "dot" (.) for optional to that model (LT or Sport Coupe). So it would appear that the Z package could be ordered on either. This, however, will be contradicted in a moment!

The Dealer Binder also shows photo's of different Camaro Interiors and door panels. The LT came with a standard vinyl interior, with an optional "knit cloth" interior. Both of these used the same style door panels with an arm rest/pull handle, but with different upper finishes, while the Sport Coupe used a different "plain" door panel.

I have got to ask my girlfriend how to e-mail things from her scanner so I can share these things with you all !!!!

As for contradicting, on a seperate set of papers that I got direct from Chevy in the mid-80's, I have a list of Camaro options, including ordering codes and pricing info. There is a seperate page for RPO Z28 which states: "Model Availability Standard Camaro (1FQ87)" . The Chevy codes (I believe) show the Type LT model as having a code of 1FS87, and of the 30 plus Z28 VINs I have checked over the years, I have never recorded a single one that has "1FS87", they all had 1FQ87. Now, that doesn't mean that they don't exist. Maybe they do but they're just so rare that I never saw one. But it looks to me like they weren't available. Still, when it comes to things like this, never say "never"!

This same sheet talks about that interior group that Nick mentioned before, and which I discussed above. It lists it as "code X**2 Custom Vinyl Bucket" with a price of $275.00, and a "code E**2 Custom Cloth Bucket" with a price of $295.00 (both MSRP prices). Just as Nick mentioned.

Well, that was a mouthful, some interesting, some confusing, and a lot contradictory!!! Hope you all find this interesting! Time for bed now!

[This message has been edited by rich m (edited January 28, 2004).]

By the way, the 1977 Dealer Book lists a total of 14 colors available on the Camaro this year. We know that seven of them were available on the Z28; Black (19), Brown (69), White (11), Yellow (51), Red (75), Silver (13), and Orange (78).

If there were supposed to have originally been 10 colors, that means they would have had to be 3 of these colors: Aqua (38), Dark Blue (29), Light Blue (22), Buckskin (63), Light Buckskin (61), Firethorn (36), and Medium Green (44).

BTW there was NOT a copper one in that commercial like I thought....So that one on E-bay is the only one I've ever seen. Or was it a Re-paint color change car?????

Thanks for the response folks. It was a lot of info, I agree, and some interesting stuff at that. I was intrigued by the Dealer Book page that mentioned 10 colors available though! That's quite a find of a new tidbit of "history"!