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rich m
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posted January 12, 2004 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rich m   Click Here to Email rich m     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote      
Dan, do you know of any differences between the U.S. cars and Canadian models?

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Dirt Reynolds
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posted January 12, 2004 05:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dirt Reynolds   Click Here to Email Dirt Reynolds     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote      
Rich, I don't think there was really any difference back in '77 between Canadian and US Z/28's. Mine's a Canuck car yet has full MPH speedo with no km/h at all. I don't think Canada phased in the metric aspect until '78 or '79 in the automotive industry, even though the feds up here started the metric thing around 1974 initially.

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1977 Z/28 'Silver Bullet'
12.15 @ 110.52 1.68 60'
413" small-block, Vortec heads, TH400, 4:10's
1989 GTA L98
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ReD-DaWg-OnE
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posted January 12, 2004 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReD-DaWg-OnE   Click Here to Email ReD-DaWg-OnE     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Visit ReD-DaWg-OnE's Homepage!   View ReD-DaWg-OnE's car!
Does anyone know why GM didn't make the 77 a 10th annivesery model? i mean the Trans-Am got it.

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rich m
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posted January 12, 2004 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rich m   Click Here to Email rich m     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote      
Red, I honestly don't remember there being a 10th Anniversary Firebird model for 1977. There was a 50th Anniversary of Pontiac model in 1976 though. If you know about a 10th Anniversary Firebird, what did it look like? Thanks.

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ReD-DaWg-OnE
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posted January 13, 2004 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReD-DaWg-OnE   Click Here to Email ReD-DaWg-OnE     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Visit ReD-DaWg-OnE's Homepage!   View ReD-DaWg-OnE's car!
no... a Trans-Am the T/A came out in '69 and the 10th was in '79... now why don't we have a annivesery model

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Dan77
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posted January 13, 2004 04:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dan77   Click Here to Email Dan77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Visit Dan77's Homepage!   View Dan77's car!
Rich M . You asked about difference between Canadian and US car. GM of Canada keeps good records of all its cars sold in Canada. The paperwork they sent me tells of the cars destination, all options and the number exported. There were 1281 Z28's exported to Canada for 1977. The only real difference for Canada car that I know of is the RPO Z49 Canadian equipment package. I am not sure what that package consists of. Dan

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rich m
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posted January 13, 2004 06:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rich m   Click Here to Email rich m     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote      
Dan, thanks for the info. I wonder if that production figure is included in the total production figure of 14,349? I guess a call to Chevrolet Customer Assistance is in order to answer that, and to help determine just what equipment was included in the Z49 Canadian equipment package. Thanks for the info, Dan! By the way, does anyone in Canada have a copy of the 1977 Camaro dealer brochure, and if so, does it differ from the U.S. version, I wonder? Did the same full page ad run in Canadian magazines as well ?

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COPO
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posted January 13, 2004 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for COPO   Click Here to Email COPO     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Visit COPO's Homepage!   View COPO's car!
I have a copy of the dealer order sheets for the 77-81 Camaro with prices. (Canadian)

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Mark
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COPO
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There were a toal of 14,349 1977 Z28's built.
Total Camaros for 1977 = 218,854
214,776 for Domestic
4,078 for Export
31,390 with 6 cyl

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Mark
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sharon77
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posted January 14, 2004 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sharon77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote      
Has anybody had a prob. with your '77 Z trying to oversteer on hard curves/corners? I only noticed when I replaced the rear springs. The anti-sway bars are (I think) stock. It feels like the rear lifts up and tries to lean to the outside. It does not try to swap ends or fight me with steering. I'm just a little spooked it might get loose on a mountain road and have me doing a "Thelma and Luise"

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kenny77
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posted January 14, 2004 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kenny77   Click Here to Email kenny77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Visit kenny77's Homepage!   View kenny77's car!
Sharon,

Your problem is your front stabilizer end links....loose/worn/wasted.
Get under there and tighten them up or replace them. I have stayed with all rubber bushings up front and have redone my rear bar with all poly on my 77.

It does real well in the corners...but I don't get crazy with it..too much $$$ in the car >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ken

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sharon77
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posted January 15, 2004 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sharon77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote      
The whole front was upgraded to polys when I put the new engine in. I was not able to match the rear bushings. The front seems stable and does not fight me at all. Just a bit spooky feeling the rear lift and lean outboard.

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Dan77
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posted January 15, 2004 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dan77   Click Here to Email Dan77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Visit Dan77's Homepage!   View Dan77's car!
Sharon. I would suspect that when your rear springs were replaced , they may have a higher spring rate than the factory springs did, as most aftermarket springs do. If this is the case , then the higher rate would cause oversteer, or the rear to come around on a corner. You could put higher rate rear springs in the front , or install a larger diameter front sway bar with urethane bushings, which would help put the car more neutral. For a cheap fix, I would try a 70-81 trans-am sway bar off ebay or this site. You can purchase the urethane bushings for the sway bar from summit or jegs for about 20 dollars. Dan

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sharon77
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posted January 15, 2004 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sharon77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote      
You are prob. right about the new rears being stouter than factory. I was only able to match the new fr coil springs to fit a 1980 Z28. The car sits a tad higher than it did with the old, worn out springs and I thought that was causing the lift I feel around corners. It has been months since they were replaced and the car should have "settled" by now.

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sharon77
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posted January 15, 2004 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sharon77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote      
By way the guys...it was 72 in Phoenix today. I had the AC on in the car...HA!

[This message has been edited by sharon77 (edited January 15, 2004).]

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