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| Author | Topic: How to weld axle tubes on GM 8.5" 10-bolt |
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Kevin Callahan Member |
Brian and I recently welded our 8.5” 10-bolt GM axle tubes to our differential housing per the popular recommendation. Since the differential housing is Nodular Cast Iron and the axle tubes are steel, the welding is not particularly straightforward. We did some research beforehand to ensure we did the job correctly. The result of this research yielded the following weld schedule, which was what we used: Weld process : TIG (Gas Tungsten Arc Weld) Post weld treatment: Mechanical peening and slow cool (recommend 100 degF/hr but we were only able to achieve 200 degF/hr using insulation blankets) Step 1) The differential was stripped of all its parts (including bearing races and seals). I don't know if this is mandatory, but we did it anyway. Step 2) Grind all the rust and casting scale off the differential housing and the axle tubes. Make sure to grind right down to clean material leaving no corrosion pits or casting pores. Notice in the illustration below that the differential housing had to be ground concave in order to get right down to the intersection of the axle tube and the housing since the grinding wheel usually has a rounded edge. Step 3) Since the differential housing required pre-heating and interpass temperature control, we wrapped the differential housing in ordinary fiberglass house insulation (with paper batting removed). The housing stayed wrapped the entire time, from before pre-heat until after cool-down. Step 4) Preheat the cast iron differential housing using a broad flame a few inches inboard of the steel axle tubes. This is best done with a “rosebud” tip as shown in the picture below. The axle tubes did not end up requiring direct heating with the torch since they were in such good contact with the housing. The proper pre-heat temperature was measured by special temperature indicating crayons. The crayon is wiped on the surface to be measured and it melts if that surface is above the crayon’s indicated temp. One well known manufacturer in the welding industry has a product called Tempilstiks. See here for details. Step 5) The first welds were made in three places, about one inch long and evenly spaced around the axle tube. Then, these segments were joined to form a complete weld pass followed immediately by mechanical peening. The peeing was accomplished using a three pound sledge and a piece of steel with a rounded nose as seen in the picture below. This is done to place the weld fillet into compression, reducing the risk of cracking during cooling. The second pass completed the weld and was also peened immediately. Step 6) The differential housing was heated again to the maximum pre-heat temperature. Immediately after heating, the entire rear end was wrapped in fiberglass insulation and allowed to stand for four hours. Time to pull some wheelies! [This message has been edited by Kevin Callahan (edited April 28, 2004).] |
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ThaDex Veteran Member |
Wow! That was a very nice how-to. Can you use a mig to weld it? I'm not sure if you can get high nickel wire for migs? ------------------ |
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79ZED Veteran Member |
Thanks Keven and Brian, excellent info and pictures. I'm keeping this on file to make sure I get mine done right! Thanks again! John |
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camaro71/holland Veteran Member |
This is why I love this site!!! ![]() Great info guys! In my opinion, there should be a 'how to' topic where you can't ask questions, but just put info & pics like you did guys. Thanx again, David ------------------ |
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POS71RS Veteran Member |
Can the admins archive this please??? Awesome how-to, and pics to boot. We all thank you, and generations of, "how do I...?" to come. Mike |
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big gear head Veteran Member |
Kevin, That is a much better job than most people have done. I know of many people who just took their car to the muffler shop and had them weld it with a MIG and cheap wire. This is not the way to do it. I have used my MIG to weld them before, but I used a high nickel wire. I still don't like doing it that way. I ise nickel rods and stick weld them now. I think I'll look into that nickel wire that you used and start TIG welding them. Great job. ------------------ |
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