ultra rare 70z-28

Discussion in '1970 - 1973 Specific' started by creeker70, Nov 25, 2017.

  1. 70lt1z28

    70lt1z28 Veteran Member Gold Member

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    Good catch on that! Easy to see once you pointed it out.
    http://nastyz28.com/threads/1970-z28-fender-hole.313793/
     
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  2. 70lt1z28

    70lt1z28 Veteran Member Gold Member

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    In the same picture, it kind of looks like the core support has been replaced also. It looks like the standard radiator-replacement opening width, not for the heavy duty/Z28 radiator.
    Compared to Charley's car: http://www.1970z28camaro.com/engine/0010.jpg
    It looks like the opening width is narrower. Perspective may do it, but compare to the top cover plate where the end bolts are and drop down. Charley's car is just about even with the top cover plate bolts where this car is well inboard.
     
  3. creeker70

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    as far as I know and I know the history of the car and the owners including myself.the fenders are orig. and the rad support cover is the orig. also the owner before me had other hood hinges, fender support bars,rad support cover chromed but kept the originals which are on the car now so I don't what you guys are seeing, sorry thx
     
  4. roeville

    roeville Veteran Member

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    Just to help illustrate what they are talking about:

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  5. 70lt1z28

    70lt1z28 Veteran Member Gold Member

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    Yeah, the support COVER is original, I was pointing out the core support itself looks like a base motor/replacement. When you buy a replacement, the opening for the radiator is sized for a 20.5 inch radiator, not the heavy duty/ z28's larger 25 inch width. Many times the body shop will just install them as the radiator will just drop in but then ~3 inches on each side of the radiator core is blocked from airflow.

    See this: http://nastyz28.com/threads/1970-z28-and-ss350-radiator-supports.127782/#post-1288299
     
  6. creeker70

    creeker70 Member

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    ok I see now wow you guys know your stuff thanks for the info
     
  7. 70 SS/L78

    70 SS/L78 Veteran Member Lifetime Gold Member

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    Good catch Dale!

    Beside the narrower opening for the radiator, replacement core supports are also missing the large round hole for the air conditioner line, to the left (drivers side) of the radiator opening. Assembly line core supports had the hole with or w/out AC

    EDIT: I should say all cars with heavy duty cooling (large opening) with or w/out AC
     
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  8. 70lt1z28

    70lt1z28 Veteran Member Gold Member

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    Not sure if you have access to the car anymore, but the next easy thing to check is the left fender and the easiest way to verify it is the washer bottle mount. Replacement fenders (GM or aftermarket) have an incomplete metal plate where the washer bottle mounts. It is cut on about a 45 degree bevel and you can only get one washer bottle screw in then (the spot for the other screw isn't even there then).
    With the fender changed and the core support, this seems to indicate some substantial front end damage somewhere in its history. Is the radiator tag correct?
    Rust is sometimes the cause, but with this low of miles that would be unusual.
     
  9. 70lt1z28

    70lt1z28 Veteran Member Gold Member

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    They all had the hole, Scott? Darn, I thought I may have had the one-of-none 1970 Z28 with AC. Better sell all the AC stuff then.
     
  10. CamarosRus

    CamarosRus Veteran Member

    The changed fender and changed core support causes immediate concern on many levels.
    This thread can go on for pages and pages...........but "BUYER BEWARE"

    You cant trust ANYTHING that is being stated about this car without EXPERT inspection
     

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