New Holley wont idle down

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  1. arick793

    arick793 Veteran Member

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    just put a brand new Holley 670 ultra street avenger on my car. Electric choke. It's on a square bore GMPP Vortec dual plane intake. My problem is that I can't get the car to idle less than 1,200 RPM's. The idle speed screw is backed out all the way, I looked down the carb and could see that the throttle plates were completely closed. I put a brand new gasket underneath it. I sprayed carb cleaner around the base of the carb, and the idle goes up just a little when I spray between the carb and the intake on the drivers side. That doesn't seem like a big enough leak to idle the engine with the throttle completely closed though. I have the pcv and power brake ports capped off, the timed vac port is capped off. The only vacuum line hooked up is for the vacuum advance. The car was running great this morning with the 600 edelbrock. Thanks for any help
     
  2. arick793

    arick793 Veteran Member

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    I used a single hole gasket like this:

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    Should I have used a 4 hole gasket like this?

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  3. arick793

    arick793 Veteran Member

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    Now that I'm looking into it, I really like this gasket. It's very thick, 0.320", supposed to help keep some heat off of the carb, but should also seal up nicely I think.

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  4. harbone66

    harbone66 Veteran Member Lifetime Gold Member

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    Any kind of vacuum leak is bad no matter how small. Put a new gasket in it and start over
     
  5. Damon

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    Is the fast idle cam (high idle speed arm) on the pass. side of the carb making contact with the body of the intake, hanging it up? If you say the primaries are COMPLETELY closed, probably not, but it never hurts to check. This is one where it will look perfect with the carb off the motor but won't idle down when installed ON the motor. Remember that Edlebrock makes all the GMPP intakes and, I swear, they design them INTENTIONALLY to give you little problems if you try to put a Holley (competitor's) carb on top.

    I'd also put the carb on with NO gasket and check to see if the mating surfaces are flush. Do the corner-to-corner "rock test". It should be laying on there dead flat.
     
  6. CorkyE

    CorkyE Veteran Member Lifetime Gold Member

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    I've ran into the situation Damon described, I took a large flat file and squared the base. This was on a used carb so likely some tightened it down on a warped intake - so lay a flat edge across the intake also. If it's the new carb, send it back. Holley's QC is a bit on the terrible side now. Another thing to check is how the secondaries are set. There's a small screw accessible under the base plate that sets opening of these.
     
  7. arick793

    arick793 Veteran Member

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    I'm working on fixing the gasket leak. I did install the carb with a new gasket, so one of the mating surfaces is likely bad. It was initially hanging up on the fast idle cam, but I got that straightened out. I crawled into the engine bay and looked down the carb with a flashlight to make sure the butterflies were totally closed. I'm going to pull the carb back off, and make sure all of the bolts and screws are tight too.
     
  8. COPO

    COPO Veteran Member Lifetime Gold Member

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    If your using a vacuum advance can then it could be
    giving you too many degrees of timing. What’s your initial at and total?
     
  9. 1980RS

    1980RS Veteran Member

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    Check the choke, make sure the screw for the fast idle cam is not on the cam holding the throttle open, had that before.
     
  10. 77 cruiser

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    How bout the secondaries?
     

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