Jamieg285's '79 in the UK

Discussion in 'Project Progress' started by jamieg285, Mar 12, 2014.

  1. jamieg285

    jamieg285 Veteran Member

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    I've been a bit too slack with my updates. Although not much was done, I was expecting to complete certain jobs and post an update to cover all of it, but for various reasons I've not had the time to work on the car - in fact I've not been able to get to it for nearly 6 weeks now - which is really annoying as the weather has been ideal for it. Anyway, using the photos for reminding, here's what I managed to get done in June and July.

    As mentioned at the end of the previous post, I was in the process of patching up the rear crossrail. Here you can see the first part of the patch roughly welded in and before cleaning up.
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    It looks an odd shape, but that is because it will match up to the patch parts I started a couple of years ago. It will make more sense when you see them together.
    Here is said piece, which has been cleaned up and had a layer of epoxy primer applied to the inner face. The other side will be accessible when it's on the car, so I will clean/paint that later.
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    This was trial fitted and marked where it needed triming or primer removed in the welding areas.
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    I then drilled all the holes ready for spot welding and whilst the drill was out I did the same on the other side.
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    I'd (relatively) recently cleaned up and epoxy primered the end of the frame rails. The patch was offered up and I marked all the areas that would be welded, then proceeded to grind the epoxy of these spots.
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    And here you can see the patch welded into place. It still needs cleaning up and epoxying, which is one of the next jobs on the list. Just ahead of that, I plan to chop out more of the lower edge of the tail panel. I'm going to cut it along the line of spot welds where it joings the trunk pan, as this will give me something to support the new panel, rather than it being a straight butt weld.

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    Lets hope the next update isn't as long coming as this one was!
     
  2. dutch73camaro

    dutch73camaro Veteran Member

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    very nice project man !, i've read your complete topic, respect for doing it outside with limited budget and tools !.

    i'm about to start again with my project and have also alot of welding to do.
    i'm gonna follow your project page.
     
  3. jamieg285

    jamieg285 Veteran Member

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    How time flies when you're not working on the car!

    I did manage to get a little bit more done at the end of last season. I ground back the welds on the patch panel and cut back some more of the outer panel on the passenger side, cleaned up the metal that side and then applied some epoxy primer to give it all some protection over the winter.
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    Not much happened for the next few months as the weather wasn't kind and it was usually too wet to do much. Then there was a very fortunate turn of events. Another '79 owner in the UK had been contacted by a car dismantler who had taken in 5 78/79 shells from a filming company and there were many part available - something of a rarity outside of the US. As you might expect, there was a lot of interest in these, so I made sure I could get there as soon as possible to make sure I got the bits I wanted. Even then, I wasn't the first and someone had done a deal to take the 3 best shells (in fact only complete ones). What remained as one that had been through a crusher, so most was gone, and one that had been cut into various pieces by the studio. It was clear that this was a rough example to start with and had been fillered and painted for filming. However, all was not lost and I actually did very well. From the nose section I was able to take a clean pair of z28 fenders, including the lower extensions, which was the main item to obtain. I was also able to cut the entire 6 inches off the back end - giving me the elusive trunk lip and the tail panel to quarter filler pieces. (see below) and a full tail spoiler set. To finish off, there was also a nice looking set of tail lights, which turned out to be OER reproductions. I ran out of time and budget to get any more bits, but may see if I can get back there sometime.

    With some recent dry weather I've had the time to start separating the bits of panel that I wanted to keep from those that I didn't. It took a few hours of careful cutting and chiselling, but eventually I ended up with just the trunk lip and filler panels.
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    The fillers clearly aren't perfect, but the worst bits are also the easiest bits to repair.

    In case you can't work out what these are, the brown center piece sits on top of the tail panel to make the channel the trunk seal fits into (see the top of the first pic in this post). The fillers go between the tail panel and the quarters:
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    This now changes the plan for the tail panel. I'll now be removing the full tail panel and replacing with the new one with these bits cleaned up and attached to it. The fun part will be getting the old filler pieces separated from the quarter panels. As my replacement quarters are patches and not full panels they don't reach all the way around the end. I may have to retain the rear most parts of the quarters where they join the fillers, or I may have to fabricate something to join the two new parts together. I need to have a good look at it to work out how to tackle it.

    My enthusiasm is firing again, so I'm now hoping for some good weather so I can get stuck in again.
     
  4. jamieg285

    jamieg285 Veteran Member

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    Time for another mini-update.

    I've been pressing on with the tail panel. Inspection of the removed filler panel showed it was in pretty good condition and only needed a couple of patches.
    This will be hidden behind the tail light/inside the trunk, so didn't need to be too pretty.
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    With that done, I was able to start a loose fit to the tail panel. There's quite a bit of wiggle room on these bits, so I'm only going to screw it together for now and wait till I'm happy with the fit will all the other bits on the car before committing to welding it.
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    The filler panel does still need a fair bit of cleaning up, but I'll wait till later to do that. I want to get a few things ready for epoxy primer and do them all at once.

    For now, the filler/tail combo is ready for trial fitting.

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    With that done, I've started drilling out the spot welds to get the tail panel out. I thought I'd got some pictures of progress with that, but they're not on the camera, so they'll have to wait till next time.

    It looks like getting the tail panel may be tricky. The main spot welds where it meets the trunk pan don't look too bad, but the areas where it links to the quarters are going to need some careful cutting.

    Hopefully it won't be too long before the next update.
     
  5. jamieg285

    jamieg285 Veteran Member

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    So much for not leaving much time before the next update! I have been able to spend a bit of time on it, but progress has been slow so it didn't seem worth posting any updates. Given that it's more than 2 months on, I figured I best put something up, just to show I'm still here.

    So, with the tail panel and filler panels ready to fit, it was back to the car to get on with removing the old ones. Spot weld cutting went quite well, just needed to remember to take things steady and not rush.
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    Getting in under here was tricky, especially as I'm trying to keep the quarter panel bits intact. Some of it was rusted apart, some drilled out OK. I am stuck on the lowest bit as I can't get the drill in at the right angle. I think I'm going to cut around this bit and cut it out when there's more room.
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    Passenger side turned out easier, the bottom section just popped apart with a little persuasion and is ready to come out.
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    As I get closer to getting the panel out, I've been thinking it through and realise I need to have a panel in place so that I can close the trunk. I should be able to screw the new one in place to hold it, but in it's current state it wouldn't be protected from the elements. Therefore, work returned to the garage where I sanded down the panel and applied a couple of layers of epoxy primer.
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    With that done, it was back to the car again, now looking to seperate the filler panel from the quarter. There's been some repair work here, so not sure how tricky this will be.
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    The patch separated quite easily (you can see why!)
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    Separating the trunk gutter piece was tricky, having to drill out the welds in the channel, but it did eventually come out without too much damage done.
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    After sanding back the paint/filler on the other side, the picture was similar, but looked a better job.
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    Thankfully there were less spot welds on the gutter this side, so it was easier to get out. Not sure if it's part of a patch or the original quarter metal, bit it's still welded to the filler panel underneath (which had completely rusted out on the drivers side!), so there's still a little bit spot weld cutting to go, but I'm not far from freeing it off and being able to remove the panel.
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    The weather's been good to me over the recent weeks, so I hope it continues and the next update will be sooner and show a new tail panel in place.

    I need to work out what the next area of focus will be - I'm currently thinking driver drop off and trunk floor repairs.
     
  6. jamieg285

    jamieg285 Veteran Member

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    Having mentioned the good weather, it was inevitable that it would turn instantly and stop me working for the next few available days. I did eventually managed to match some free time and some dry weather and was able to hit the next big target - the tail panel is out.
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    It too a little more wiggling that expected and there was a spot I missed in both corners, but it did eventually fall out.

    I had to cut the drivers edge as I couldn't get to all the spot welds with the panel being in the way. When it was out I was able to finish the job off. The edge of the quarter panel isn't pretty, but some of this will be replaced by the new panel. I am expecting to have to add some extra metal in some places here.
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    Next target it to get the new panel in place, albeit only screwed in place for now. I cleaned up the exposed trunk edge and the inner face of the other side of the cross rail patch and applied some epoxy.
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    I had a quick go at lining up the tail panel and it looks like it's going to be tricky to get it all lined up, especially when I put the upper extension panel on it. I found that my cross rail panel was too far back and interfering with the fit. I can bend this back easily enough, so we'll see how that goes.

    Next job is to weld the cross rail panel up, and sort out the center section where the 2 patches join.
     
  7. jamieg285

    jamieg285 Veteran Member

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    Time for a long overdue update. I've been plugging away, bit by bit, but managed to get a good amount of hours in over the weekend, so made some good steps.

    The right side of the cross rail has now been welded in, but I forgot to get a picture so I will have to get one at a later stage. Once that was in I was able to start trial fitting the tail panel. I was pleased to find that with the panel was able to squeeze in with the upper filler pieces attached (although only because the lower part of the left quarter panel is loose and can be swung to the left to make room). A little bit of wiggling and clearancing was required, but I did eventually get it into place and was able to start working out where the spot welds would be needed.
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    I should have taken some pics from the inside, as the panel didn't conform to the trunk panel as well as I'd hoped and it was clear it would need to be pulled in at a number of places. As this could then affect the fit of the whole panel, I opted to get the screws out and firmly attach the panel and pull it into place. As you can see, some of my estimates on where to drill holes were a bit off!
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    With the tail panel in it's final location, I was able to move back inside the trunk and start working on the patch for the floor. No pics, but I trial fitted the drop off, clamping it to the wheelhouse and a screw to the tail panel, giving me the outer boundary for the patch. I mocked up a cardboard template, then cut and folded a section from the old quarter panel into a rough shape. After lots of fettling, it was an acceptable fit (for now!)
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    Whilst clamped in place I marked the outline of the frame underneath, and then used this as a template to drill the holes ready for welding.
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    Again, no pics (I'm slipping :( ), but I now had to cut out one of the trunk reinforcement pieces, ready to fit to the patch. Not sure if I bent it whilst removing, whether the patch isn't quite right, or the frame isn't welded in the right place (I hope not!) but I couldn't get the holes to get close to the holes in the tail panel. After about an hour of pulling, pushing, hammering and bending, I gave in and simply cut the ear off and welded it back on 1/2 inch lower down.
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    With this now fitting I refitted bumber and bolted it up, only to find it pulls the patch quite a bit and it's too short (no pics again, but you'll see it later). I will need to patch a thin strip across the top later on.

    Holes on the patch were then cleaned up, holed added to the side part and the patch was welded to the drop off (far easier than trying to attach the drop off in-situ)
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    And here's the top side
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    This was carefully clamped into place and a small bit of the trunk patched. The reinforcement piece bolted in to hold everything in place, then I welded into place at the drop off/wheelhouse joint
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    Then, inside the trunk I welded up the holes that were not hidden by the reinforcement piece and just tacked the edges to hold the patch down when the reinforcement was removed.
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    When I removed the reinforcement I discovered I had some poor penetration on some of the welds, due to the thicker metal of the frame. I had to cut out a couple of the welds and re-do them on a higher heat setting. I also unscrewed and removed the tail panel to give me better access to the rear most set of welds.
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    Rain and lack of welding gas put a stop to proceedings at this point. When I get some more gas, the next steps will be to fill the strip at the top of the patch and then I can clean up all the welds and weld in the reinforcement.
     
  8. Da-bigguy

    Da-bigguy Veteran Member Lifetime Gold Member

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    You continuously amaze me with the work you get done in less than ideal conditions! Keep up the great work and keep us posted with lots of pics!
     
  9. thesalboy

    thesalboy Veteran Member

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    Now that is some serious commitment and dedication!
     
  10. Jas0n

    Jas0n Veteran Member Lifetime Gold Member

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    Amazing. Your work give me hopes and motivation to go forward with mine! Thanks for sharing jamieg285!
     

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