Hurst Shifter Identification

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  1. Kregb

    Kregb Veteran Member

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    Can anybody tell me what this shifter came on originally? It's an OEM shifter I think off of a first generation camaro. The number on the case is 480431C I couldn't get a very good picture and the first 4 is very hard to see.
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    I couldn't get the handle out, it is very tight. One that note I have the correct shifter for my '70 but the handle has been removed and the clips that hold it are missing. What do I need to replace I can't tell from the other shifter if there are two parts or four. I think I need two of these.
    http://www.summitracing.com/parts/huu-1263705/media/images
     
  2. COPO

    COPO Veteran Member Lifetime Gold Member

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    You need 1 pair of metal clips and 1 pair of rubbers for the shifter handle, one for each side.
    Your missing the 1st digit of the number on the shifter, it's probably a 0. It should have 8 digits total.

    0480431C

    The 1st 2 digits is the Month
    04 = April
    8 = 1968
    0 = common to all shifters

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  3. DCL70

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    Kreg,

    I believe that your Hurst shifter mechanism might be dated April 1978.
    4 = April
    8 = 1978 or 1968 ???
    0 = common to all factory installed Hurst shifter

    Is the stamping "HURST" or is it "HURST COMPETITION/PLUS"?
    Is the stamped number on the side "3138" or "6356"?

    Factory Hurst shifters made after May or June 1970 received a gray phosphate coating. The shifters made before that date were cadmium plated. (CORRECTED)

    Most factory Hurst shifters made in 1968 and older had a different stamped date code format. I'm not sure exactly when the date code format changed. I will research that and get you some examples.

    If you carefully remove the chrome handle according to the instructions below you will find a 4-digit stamped number on the bottom end from which I can probably tell the original application.

    Pete Serio has a book entitled "Vintage Hurst Shifters" which is very good but he totally missed the boat on the factory installed Hurst shifter date codes.

    The chrome handle appears to be an original 1968-1969 Firebird & 1969 Camaro handle as best as I can tell. If it is stamped "5325" on the bottom then it is.

    Dave

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  4. CamarosRus

    CamarosRus Veteran Member

    Dave, In judging the (mostly 1970) Camaro restorations at the CAMARO Nationals I have been asking for/looking for a Silver Zinc plated HURST shifter body.
    My own 70 Z is 07E so thats probably according to you I should have had
    a HURST shifter body that looked "shiny silver"

    I'd like to read more about your documentation on this HURST OEM shifter subject and what ALL the misc components should be plated prior and after
    the April date.

    I still need to document my 70 R/S SS 350 LA 4spd survivor HURST and linkage.
     
  5. DCL70

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  6. DCL70

    DCL70 Veteran Member

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    Chuck,

    My mistake, I got it backwards. Thanks for the wake up call.
    Cadmium up to May or June 1970, after that, gray phosphate.
    I will correct my first post to avoid any confusion.

    I have 3 factory "HURST COMPETITION/PLUS" shifters that were made in 1970:

    "0100311R", (Jan. 1970), cadmium
    "0400431O" (April 1970), cadmium
    "0800732M" (Aug. 1970), gray phosphate

    My gray phosphate Hurst shifter mechanisms are in better condition because of the gray phosphate. As Pete Serio states "This was a petroleum-based plating to help retain the grease onto the metal parts....".

    What is the date code and plating type on your Hurst shifter in your "07E" car? My guess is that your shifter is stamped "0500......" or "0600......".

    Dave

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  7. COPO

    COPO Veteran Member Lifetime Gold Member

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    Both my 70 Z28 and 71 Z28 shifter plating look the same.
     
  8. Kregb

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    Dave,

    The shifter I was asking about is stamped
    HURST
    COMPETITION/PLUS
    U.S. PAT NO 3216274

    The first number 4 is very hard to read as it is very close to the bolt hole and the plating is rubbed of in that area there may be a number 1 as the first diget or that could be a scratch. The number if adding a diget in the beginning would be 1480431C or possibly 0480431C with the zero completly worn off. It has been in my collection of part since about 1981 and I cannot remember what it was removed from I was playing with Camaros for the most part but it could have come off a Firebird.

    Edit: After a little effort and equal swearing I got the handle out the number is 5325
     
  9. flowjoe

    flowjoe Moderator Staff Member Lifetime Gold Member

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    Kregb, that is a 1st gen shifter.
     
  10. Kregb

    Kregb Veteran Member

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    So what is a '68 '69 Camaro/Firebird shifter in good driver condition worth. I really don't need it but I do need a lot of stuff for my '70
     

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