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09-18-2007, 10:25:14 PM
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S-10 steering box direct bolt in?
The pitman arm seems to have a 3" offset and mine on the car is strait?
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09-19-2007, 10:50:53 AM
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I'm about to make this swap as well, so I'd like to see a reply here too!  |
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09-19-2007, 11:45:30 AM
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From what I've read over and over again, you use the stock S-10 manual box with your stock Camaro Pitman Arm. That's it
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09-19-2007, 09:22:29 PM
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i did this swap i used a 89 s10 manual box and the stock 79 camaro pitman arm worked perfect
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09-19-2007, 11:05:32 PM
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just did the swap on my 70 the only problem that arose is that the shaft on the s10 box is thinner than the box I removed. do I need a coupler from the s10 ??
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09-20-2007, 12:36:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Cable Slacker
just did the swap on my 70 the only problem that arose is that the shaft on the s10 box is thinner than the box I removed. do I need a coupler from the s10 ??
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By 'shaft' do you mean the threaded arm that the pitman arm is connected to ? I know what you're referring to if that's what you mean because I had that issue as well a long time ago.
If you stick to a 3rd gen unit....you'll get the same diameter shaft for the pitman arm. Then use the S-10 steering coupler ( rag joint) if its for an early year car (76 or earlier - maybe up into early 77)....otherwise use the 'metric' coupler....
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09-20-2007, 12:54:09 AM
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the shaft that attaches to the rag joint is to skinny to attach my existing rag joint. Do I need to change the rag joint and if so which one to buy thanks
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09-22-2007, 11:31:26 AM
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There are two different S-10 boxes. The 525 box(also the most common replacement aftermarket box) uses a different pitman arm. I believe it is the 89 and later ones that use the 778 box. It is a direct swap , just did it on my 79. Rag joint a direct swap also,althoug I used Borgeson needle bearign joints and collapsable shaft.Also the early F body manual boxes use a specific pitman arm also, I think it is being repoped and on E bay some.
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11-28-2007, 08:22:37 AM
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11-28-2007, 08:50:14 AM
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I'm curious of what the attraction is with these S-10 boxes, several people have done it, and I was just wondering what the advantages are of running these boxes.
At $310...you could add a couple bucks and get a brand new quick ratio AGR unit. Junk yard box is probably the way to go if you're looking to do the swap. Are you just looking to free up a belt from the motor?
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11-28-2007, 09:33:44 AM
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I'm curious of what the attraction is Are you just looking to free up a belt from the motor?
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Thats it ditch ps pump big heavy box and eliminate a belt being driven by the motor |
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11-28-2007, 09:58:34 AM
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Read this
This is the correct casting number manual box for the later model cars, I don't think it works for the 77 & prior camaros.
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11-28-2007, 09:59:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Mwilson
Thats it ditch ps pump big heavy box and eliminate a belt being driven by the motor
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I Gotcha  , I figured it was probably the extra belt tugging at the motor. |
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11-28-2007, 02:45:21 PM
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There are faster ratio 525 boxes out there but they take a custom pitman arm. The 778 boxes can reuse the PS one.
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11-28-2007, 09:55:46 PM
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Originally Posted by John Wright
I'm curious of what the attraction is with these S-10 boxes, several people have done it, and I was just wondering what the advantages are of running these boxes.
At $310...you could add a couple bucks and get a brand new quick ratio AGR unit. Junk yard box is probably the way to go if you're looking to do the swap. Are you just looking to free up a belt from the motor?
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I was wondering the same thing. Because I drive a '90 S10 PU w/manual steering,5 spd ,4 cyl to work everyday. I like the way it turns but I don't think I enjoy it more than I used to enjoy my '80 camaro the steering just feels a little tighter but its a pain for parking. |
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