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Old 09-04-2006, 11:55:46 PM   #1
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DSE mini tubs available for our cars

Detroit Speed and Engineering has a mini tub kit for us now. I wish it came sooner since I just had a custom 3" tub done on mine. They look to be sweet units, and if welded in, ground and seam sealed, they will look factory.
http://www.detroitspeed.com/productp...d_gen_prod.htm

Very cool way to get low with meats. Here is my mockup with 315/35/17's before the minitubs and 3-link. I love this look!
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Old 09-05-2006, 12:50:26 AM   #2
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That looks bad a$$!!!!
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Old 09-05-2006, 02:29:29 AM   #3
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Oooohhhhh!!!! The sticker shock!!!
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Old 09-05-2006, 05:18:23 AM   #4
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gotta love those 315's! Best thing I ever did thats for sure! Id love to see more pics of your suspention setup, post some 3 link and tub porn !
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Old 09-05-2006, 07:29:34 AM   #5
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For $1700, I think I would go with a martz or Alston 4 link
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Old 09-05-2006, 10:32:44 AM   #6
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Your ride looks sweeet.

The price for the mini tub kit is in my opinion very steep.
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Old 09-05-2006, 10:51:11 AM   #7
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This is the only part of that kit that I'm intersted in and it's still 5 bills. It would be nice to have them already made up rather than adding in a strip of sheet metal to widen the originals.
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Old 09-05-2006, 02:46:28 PM   #8
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I dont really see the point if the tires arent much wider than what you can fit in there without the modded tubs. A number of us have 315 35 17s as it is without tubbing.
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Old 09-05-2006, 03:41:58 PM   #9
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I dont understand why that kit is so much more than the 1st generation kit when the base 1st generation kit even comes with the leaf springs included.
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Old 09-05-2006, 03:44:19 PM   #10
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These deep tubs will allow you to fit 335's with no problem. That means you don't have to roll the fender lip, and you REALLY limit the chance of any rubbing.
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Old 09-05-2006, 03:45:40 PM   #11
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I dont understand why that kit is so much more than the 1st generation kit when the base 1st generation kit even comes with the leaf springs included.
Look at the two and compare them. The 2nd gen kit comes with more stuff.
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Old 09-05-2006, 05:18:59 PM   #12
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Easier and cheaper to roll fender lip and beat in the bump for the seat belts. I'd rather have the mini-tubs all things being equal, but its a cost-value thing.. that is a lot of work and money to gain 20mm (.787"!) extra room to fit 335's as many are already running 315's with no rubbing, and I know of several people that did it w/o rolling the fender lip. I even found one 2nd generation owner with 335's who claims that he did it with rolling the fender lip and massaging existing in well with a hammer (dont know if the 335's rub though, but must be very tight).

I don't see a big difference between the kits..the 1st generation kit has leaf springs which the 2nd generation kit doesn't, while the second gen kit includes front spring pockets, leaf spring bushings (don't really need), and frame rail fill panels which the 1st gen kit doesn't. The benefits of the kit is much greater with the 1st generation which has rather small wheel wells. That is a lot of work and money for a 2nd gen owner to gain extra room to fit a maximum 3/4" wider tire. I would consider it if I gained enough width for 2" wider tires. I am glad the kit is available, though, just pricey considering the above.

2nd gen kit ($1,700):
- DSE DEEP TUBS
- New spring pockets
- Rear upper shock crossmember
- Upper shock mounts
- Offset shackles
- Leaf spring pads
- U-bolts
- Lower shock plates
- Rear leaf Delrin bushing kit
- Steel frame rail fill panels
- Instructional DVD
- Templates
- Detailed instructions

1st gen kit ($1,320):
- DSE Deep Tubs
- Rear Upper Shock Crossmember
- Rear Upper Shock Mounts
- Offset Shackles
- Rear Leaf Springs
- Adjustable Leaf Spring Pads
- Lower Shock Plates
- U-Bolts
- Mini-Tub Video Including Templates
- Detailed Installation Instructions
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Old 09-05-2006, 11:00:28 PM   #13
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This is the only part of that kit that I'm intersted in and it's still 5 bills. It would be nice to have them already made up rather than adding in a strip of sheet metal to widen the originals.

Yes. That is the key part indeed.(I did not look for that page, Doooh!) I agree, the price on the kit is steep. I had a strip of metal added to mine and it cost $. Came out nice though.

Here's what I gathered on the 315s. You can FIT them in with "massaged" factory wells. Unfortunately the rear wells taper towards the top of the fender on the outside and the shocks on the inside. (Dropped a few plumb weights). You can TUCK IN 335s with the mini-tub and 3-Link rear. I figured, if I was going this far with the rear end setup, why not tub it too. Yeah, I know, SECOND MORTGAGE.
The car will set with the tires well within the wheel wells. Nice and low, Herb Adams style. I wanted a sticky, low profile, drag radial tire and the 315 was the widest out there. I bought them before I decided to add the mini-tub. My mistake. When I order the wheels, I am also getting a pair of 18X12s for 335/30/18 Toyo F1 tires.
I've had the car for 19 years now and this is its final tribute.
I'll post the 3-link porn tomorrow if I get the chance.
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Old 09-06-2006, 12:31:29 AM   #14
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These deep tubs will allow you to fit 335's with no problem. That means you don't have to roll the fender lip, and you REALLY limit the chance of any rubbing.

The only real benefit I saw at first was rubbing if you dropped it really low. But I couldnt imagine going lower than what I got, and frankly, I like having the rubber sit near flush with the outside body panel.
Like Tokyo said... for that kinda money... not enough improvement IMHO.
Sweet eye candy though. I'd love to see that 3 link porn.
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Old 09-09-2006, 04:52:25 PM   #15
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3-Link Porn

Here are the pics sent to me so far from Lateral Dynamics.






Front is getting done too with coilover suspension and tubular A-arms with altered geometries.
Enjoy!

As you can see, I did not get DSE tubs either.
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