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View Poll Results: Which would you prefer and why ??
Longevity 3 50.00%
Everlast 1 16.67%
Another brand in the same $$$ range 2 33.33%
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Old 07-05-2011, 12:28:55 AM   #1
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Hobbyist welder options: Everlast & Longevity

Anyone here own an Everlast or Longevity tig & stick & plasma cutter that can give feedback on it ??

I've sat and read about 10 threads on the WeldingWeb. Seems that forum is like a bunch of vendors nitpicking at one another non-stop and can't get a straight consensus. Half the people it seems are vendors in disguise throwing the other one's under the bus.

For now I'm considering either of these 2 options mainly because.....well cut the BS aside,
$$ PRICE $$....and I'm seeing them popping up everywhere.
They offer Plasma / TIG / Stick altogether in one machine at a VERY fair price. I don't have $2,000 for a TIG welder as a hobbyist either. So I won't be using this daily to justify that sort of investment cost for a Hobat, Lincoln, or Miller.

They have their own 2 sponsored forums in the Welding Web as well.
Like I said though, I don't know if I trust half the stuff that's thrown around there.
http://weldingweb.com/

Longevity Weldmax 205i IGBT based Inverter
60% @ 200amp DC TIG welder, a 160amp DC stick welder, and a 40amp plasma cutter

Everlast PowerUltra IGBT based Inverter
60% @ 200amp Tig welder, 200amp DC stick welder, and 50amp Plasma Cutter
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Old 07-05-2011, 02:59:54 AM   #2
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Looks like Everlast passes it's own spec's testing.
However, Longevity's didn't. Independent tester on WeldingWeb.
http://weldingweb.com/showthread.php?t=28873&page=2

Test Results in Text Format

Also looks like the 2 owners are brother in laws that don't care for one another.
Everlast is sponsored on Pirate4x4 and has alot of sales.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=712820
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Old 07-05-2011, 03:03:38 AM   #3
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Pirate 4x4 members are pretty hard core with there tools..If there liking them its definatly a plus.
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Old 07-05-2011, 07:14:31 AM   #4
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Ya'll need to read that Pirate4x4 thread again, there's a reason why he was banned......
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Old 07-05-2011, 07:24:48 AM   #5
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Here is a better thread,
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...light=everlast

But it seems customer service sucks.
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Old 07-05-2011, 07:26:47 AM   #6
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Ya'll need to read that Pirate4x4 thread again, there's a reason why he was banned......
I posted the wrong thread.....the one below is the one I meant to post.
He was banned initially for not paying the site owners for advertising is my guess.

He came back with a new screen name and is still a sponsor.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=782388

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But it seems customer service sucks.

Show me where you see this ??
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Old 07-05-2011, 08:39:42 AM   #7
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I can't comment on either as I have no personal knowledge of either one.

my advice is to talk to the welding supply operators in your area. get some feedback from them as to what is selling, what requires the most maintenance.. etc. also which brands they stock parts for. around here it's mostly Airco and Harris.

I have a L-Tec plasma cutter and it's almost impossible to get parts in a timely manner. last order was close to 3 weeks

while I agree price point is a valid issue in deciding on what machine to buy... you want a good robust machine that will do the job, not a harbor freight kinda MIG... you know which one I'm talking about too.. lol

for example, a buddy up the street, a general contractor, was cleaning his box out a few weeks back and gave me a Milwaukee sawzall... it had a broken chuck, but otherwise was in excellent shape. it's the heavy duty, all ball bearing one. he didn't want to fart with repairing it and bought another, lesser quality one, at home desperate instead. I ordered the repair parts and now I have 3 of them. I put maybe 25 bucks into it.

funny, I bet he calls and asks to borrow one of them before the month is over..lol

same with my plasma cutter... I have 150 bucks in it. broken when I got it for almost free, but working fine now.
"used, but in good shape" is always another option. if you can get a higher quality machine for the same money, who cares if it's nice and shiny because it won't stay that way for long. also with the economy the way it is there are lots of deals out there...

don't cheap-out on tools. buy once.. and cry once. then you get many years of good, dependable service out of them.
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I picked up a used LOTOS brand 3 in 1 off craigslist and it has worked well, the plasma unit works fine and the tig is only hampered by my lack of welding skill. I havent used the stick function yet.

I had to buy all the consumables from ebay and yes they came straight from china.
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I had to buy all the consumables from ebay and yes they came straight from china.
Thats the killer..Some off brands use the same torches as the big names..Ya just need to shop around.The plasma tip, if your a fabbing fool like me youll appreciate running down the street when your plasma tip opens up on ya and starts to sputter.
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I posted the wrong thread.....the one below is the one I meant to post.
He was banned initially for not paying the site owners for advertising is my guess.

He came back with a new screen name and is still a sponsor.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=782388



Show me where you see this ??

Read that link I posted, it seems to be a hit and miss kind of thing if you get customer service or not.
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Read that link I posted

It's the same link I posted. Hence why I asked you to point it out specifically.
I read it earlier in the day before I started this thread.

Many members were trying to get the sellers attention through the forum and
when they couldn't get his immediate attention via PM or the thread they got antsy.

A forum isn't a customer service venue for fast service. The phone is.
Hence, why the vendor eluded to that at the end of that thread.

I've read Everlast Customer service has been fast and timely.
I was leaning towards Longevity but the more I've read, seems Everlast is better all around.
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It's the same link I posted. Hence why I asked you to point it out specifically.
I read it earlier in the day before I started this thread.

Many members were trying to get the sellers attention through the forum and
when they couldn't get his immediate attention via PM or the thread they got antsy.

A forum isn't a customer service venue for fast service. The phone is.
Hence, why the vendor eluded to that at the end of that thread.

I've read Everlast Customer service has been fast and timely.
I was leaning towards Longevity but the more I've read, seems Everlast is better all around.

page 33, post 815 is the post that stand out the most. If you call let the operator take the call.

After talking to a couple of other people on that board via PM, it seems to be the general opinion that the service there is not up to par even via calling. Consumables are used up faster then other brands so keep a few on stock at all time.

It might be a good unit for a once in a blue moon hobbyist.
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The big drawback to both of those machines is no A/C mode which will limit the materials you can weld on the tig side. You need the A/C for tig welding alum.
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The big drawback to both of those machines is no A/C mode which will limit the materials you can weld on the tig side. You need the A/C for tig welding alum.


Yeah I thought about that but I picked mine up used for $300 and figured I could try TIG and see if I had a shot at doing a decent weld before buying a dedicated TIG machine from Miller and spending $1000+.

Also because it is a 3-1 machine if only the plasma side worked well for me I figured I got a plasma cutter for $300. I am enjoying the Tig side just trying to unlearn all my bad Mig and stick habits, so far nothing has fallen apart LOL
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I bought the longevity forcecut 60i to run on my TorchMate CNC table and it worked awesome. I got a lot of plasma cutter for money.
When it was time for a new T.I.G. machine I thought I would give Longevity a try. Iv'e had a couple of T.I.G units through the years one red and the latest blue . I ordered the Longevity 200dx with the water cooler. My T.I.G. welding has never been better! This machine rocks! On the A/c side you really can tune in and control the puddle. I do a lot of 5052 .063 Aluminum work from a dash, to my motorcycle projects. The 200 DX welds better than 250 DX blue machine I had. Just my .02 cents, for the money its hard to beat.
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