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Old 04-20-2011, 04:43:25 PM   #1
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Any guitar experts?

I was trying to find some info on my grandpa's Guitar. Its a Standel I dont know what model it is but its a hollow body electric he bought in the late 1960's early 1970's. He told me before he passed that there was only 4 of this model made. I dont know how to find out what model it is so I was wondering if anybody knew of a website or some place I could call for info on its value. He also has a standel amp thats huge like 5 feet tall. he was told once that the guitar and amp together was worth $20,000 to the right buyer.

Thanks hope one of you have some knowledge about this.
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It'a vintage guitar, call a specialist.

http://vintageguitarpro.com/
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Old 04-20-2011, 04:59:24 PM   #3
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It'a vintage guitar, call a specialist.

http://vintageguitarpro.com/

Thanks i'll give that a try. I googled it but couldnt find much.
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Try to find one in your state, much closer to you.
Don't let it out of your sight or parts could be swapped and you'd never know.

That was just an example.
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Old 04-20-2011, 05:13:58 PM   #5
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i agree w/ aces dont let that thing go alone anywhere
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Old 04-20-2011, 05:20:08 PM   #6
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i agree w/ aces dont let that thing go alone anywhere

My mom has it in a safe place we are not going to sell it we are trying to figure its value because my aunt wants to keep it which is fine, but she has to give my mom half of its value. but ya it will be kept in good hands.
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Old 04-20-2011, 06:12:24 PM   #7
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hope your aunt isnt the type to sell after she finds out the worth
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Old 04-20-2011, 07:40:08 PM   #8
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I'd ask over at http://www.thegearpage.net/board/ Someone there is bound to know about it. Pics and model numbers would be a huge help.
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Old 04-21-2011, 01:09:01 AM   #9
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You can send pictures of it to "elderly instruments", or "gruhn guitars" in nashville, they are the experts.
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Old 04-21-2011, 10:35:51 AM   #10
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Standel was more know for thier amps than thier guitars. They only made guitars in the 60's. They didn't actually build the guitars themselves but licensed the name and where built by independant luthiers (luthiers are guitar builders).

The first Standel guitars and never got further than a few Telecaster-shaped, single-cutaway prototypes that were very similar to the Mosrite guitars of the time.

One of the best-known Standel models is the solidbody Custom, manufactured from ’66 to ’67, the Custom was made in Bakersfield, California.

In 1967 Strandel made one last ditch effort to build guitars. They were made by a guy named Sam Koontz out of NJ and he only made approx 300 units across all model lines for Standel between 1967 and 1969. This includes the 420 s and the 520 s, the 920 hollow bodies, the Eagle, the Lark, the 811 Archtop, and the 1000 S Archtop. This sounds like the type you have.

They go for anywhere from $7500 - $10,000. Post up a pic and we can figure out what one it is specifically.
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Old 04-21-2011, 11:44:06 AM   #11
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Standel was more know for thier amps than thier guitars. They only made guitars in the 60's. They didn't actually build the guitars themselves but licensed the name and where built by independant luthiers (luthiers are guitar builders).

The first Standel guitars and never got further than a few Telecaster-shaped, single-cutaway prototypes that were very similar to the Mosrite guitars of the time.

One of the best-known Standel models is the solidbody Custom, manufactured from ’66 to ’67, the Custom was made in Bakersfield, California.

In 1967 Strandel made one last ditch effort to build guitars. They were made by a guy named Sam Koontz out of NJ and he only made approx 300 units across all model lines for Standel between 1967 and 1969. This includes the 420 s and the 520 s, the 920 hollow bodies, the Eagle, the Lark, the 811 Archtop, and the 1000 S Archtop. This sounds like the type you have.

They go for anywhere from $7500 - $10,000. Post up a pic and we can figure out what one it is specifically.

Thanks that was very help full. He does have a huge standel amp that stands almost 5 feet tall and it looks brand new so does the guitar. The amp will be sold im sure.http://images.search.yahoo.com/searc...web&fr=hp-pvdt This is what it looks like but not exactly
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Ok if it looks like that one but not exactly, I am going to peg it as an 811S as seen below.



Look like that? Those models are worth a bit less actually. Figure in the $4000 - $5000 range. The 920 is what you have pictured and you say it's like that but not exactly so that is out. The 420 and 520 were dual horn guitars (like the Gibson ES355), and the Eagle and Lark were acoustics. It could be the 1000S but I'm pretty sure it's an 811.

Now I can even peg the year for you. The Standel dates are easy to figure out by what label it has. Sam Koontz's company was named Harptone. They only made that guitar from 67-68. Standel didn't have a label the first year and used Harptone's. So if it has Standel on the headstock and Harptone inside the body (viewed through the cutouts) then it's a 67. If it has a Standel label inside, it's a 68.

Whatever you do, don't break up the amp/guitar pair. They are actually worth a bit more to a collector as a package then split from each other. A guitar/amp like anything is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. I highly doubt you'd get $20,000 for the duo but who knows...on a really good day, maybe if your lucky. Still they rarely do come up for sale so it is definatly worth money....just I don't think as much as what someone told you.
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Old 04-22-2011, 10:54:14 AM   #13
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I looked at a picture of it last night its pretty close to the picture you posted but the pickups are different and some of the knobs but other than that almost exact. It does say standel on the head but i dont know about the inside. The amp is a standel imperial super xv. both are in like new condition. Ill try to post a picture tonight if i can.

and thanks guys so much for your help, David

I looked at the picture I posted again the only difference is the placement of the knobs other than that its exact.
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Old 04-22-2011, 02:13:02 PM   #14
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I was actually going to post the same type of question. I have my grandmothers guitar, which is probably older than me. I've never heard of this company and there isnt any markings on it other than a label on the head but i was just trying to find more info out about the guitar itself.





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I looked at the picture I posted again the only difference is the placement of the knobs other than that its exact.
Then it sounds like its a 900B as the one you posted is a 900S. The B is an early and the S is later. The B is 1967 only and worth more than the 811. Don't know the exact figures on how many made but probably more than 4 made.

Javelin, can you post a pic of the headstock? The front facing angle.
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