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Old 02-09-2011, 11:51:49 PM   #1
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NOS Door Weatherstrip questions

Okay, I give up. I spent big money on ebay to purchase what I thought were correct NOS Door Weatherstrip for my 71 Z28 and they do not fit. The Group and part numbers are correct on the boxes, GR10.694 1#9868430 and 1#9868431, the W/S look exactly like originals (and the re-pop's I have), but they are approx. 6" too short and the little plastic pins that push into the door do not align with the holes in the doors. The first couple pins on each end align but the rest of them have an entirely different configuration. The ends fit and align perfectly with the screw holes. These do have some numbers embossed on each end but I don't know what they mean. These numers are LH front 8291, rear 9383 and RH front 8290, rear 9382. Does anyone know what these things fit, they do not fit a Camaro door? Has anyone ever run across this issue? Here are some pics to help with the story.







So I assume somewhere along the line, way back when, some parts guy at a GM dealer was taking the Camaro W/S out of the boxes and replacing them with these; then selling the Camaro stuff.
I am currently working with the Ebay seller on getting this deal undone, but I am curious if anyone has had this problem before or if anyone knows what these fit. I also want to make this issue known to those of you who are buying NOS GM weather strip, apparently the numbers on the box don't mean much.
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Old 02-09-2011, 11:57:47 PM   #2
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sometimes respawn products like the ones you compaired to gms nos are of different material, those boxes look like they have dealt with moisture maybe over years shrinking product.
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Old 02-10-2011, 10:45:52 AM   #3
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shrinking product.

That's my guess too. But, I was able to find an NOS trunk weather strip for my 73. I got it from an out of state GM establishment. The guy I talked to said that the box had been on the shelf for as long as he has worked there.....which was over 20 years. It fit great, but the trunk weather strip is cut to fit on the length.
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Old 02-10-2011, 11:00:18 AM   #4
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That rubber wouldn't shrink that much sitting in the box. It's a China part in a GM box to be sold off as the real deal. Scam.
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Old 02-10-2011, 11:13:49 AM   #5
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I got a gm weather strip from a dealer not long ago and had to stretch it pretty good to install it. once I got it on it worked perfectly. ed
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Old 02-10-2011, 11:35:10 AM   #6
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I think they have shrunk. Maybe lay them in the sun to warm up and try using a heat gun and gently stretch them into place. DON'T stretch it while cold.
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Old 02-10-2011, 01:30:54 PM   #7
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I also put new original GM door seals from a dealer and had to stretch to install. I would use caution stretching yours if they are old NOS and dry rotting it may create a problem stretching.
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Old 02-10-2011, 01:38:29 PM   #8
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I gotta believe these were switched at some point ( perhaps an honest mistake ).
I fail to see how shrinkage (or stretching ) will resolve this...
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The holes spacing / orientation is completely different.
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Old 02-10-2011, 03:49:18 PM   #9
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Could they be for a different car and were placed in boxes with the wrong part #s? Shrinking 6" seems like a lot, esp if they are not all dry rotted or have not lost any thickness. The white pegs are in completely different spots too and not just from shrinkage (pic #4 esp).
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Old 02-10-2011, 04:37:20 PM   #10
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I say, get your $ back cause it doesn't look like it fit your year Camaro.
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Could they be for a different car and were placed in boxes with the wrong part #s? Shrinking 6" seems like a lot, esp if they are not all dry rotted or have not lost any thickness. The white pegs are in completely different spots too and not just from shrinkage (pic #4 esp).

That was what I was implying in post 8.
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Looks correct to me, I will give you $100.00 for the pair
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That was what I was implying in post 8.

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I spoke with Mike about this some time ago ... yes this is the SECOND time the exact same thing has occurred ... same part numbers and same weatherstrips ... 2 years apart ... it is too much to be coincidence ... 2 years ago we figured they were swapped out ... this time ... ? ? ? How can the pin spacing be SO FAR off???
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Old 02-11-2011, 09:18:17 PM   #15
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Greeny,

I also have a set of NOS door weather stripes that I purchased through my GM dealer quite a while back. They are the same from 70-81. My group numbers and part numbers are the same as yours. The embossed numbering on the ends of the weather stripes match yours. I'm not ready to put the car back together yet but I did take the seals out of the boxes and checked pin alignment. My set fits correctly.

Sorry I couldn't be of more help, hope you manage to get a refund.

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