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Old 04-07-2010, 01:23:11 AM   #1
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Benefits of MSD

i was considering switching over to MSD but i wanted to know why its such a big difference alot of friends n such are saying to switch but i wanted to get some info about the advantages of it
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Old 04-07-2010, 01:39:42 AM   #2
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multiple spark, stronger spark, allows use of a bit of inferior gas. And many more.

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Old 04-07-2010, 01:52:00 AM   #3
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Higher efficiency through more consistent and complete combustion will yield more performance and can provide better fuel mileage if the vehicle is driven properly!
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Old 04-07-2010, 02:10:21 AM   #4
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Higher efficiency through more consistent and complete combustion will yield more performance and can provide better fuel mileage if the vehicle is driven properly!


Well put, it's all in the efficiency. It allows you to get to your max potential.
It wouldn't give you any power, but it will allow you to utilize what you have.

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Old 04-07-2010, 06:11:24 AM   #5
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The MSD works below 3,000 RPM so the cylinder has a 2nd etc chance to fire and make some power vs losing that whole cycle in that hole.
Also it helps keep the plug from fuel fouling and continuing to misfire.

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Old 04-07-2010, 04:06:58 PM   #6
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Does it help clean up a stinky idle out of the exhaust?

Can you get it to work with HEI ?
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Old 04-07-2010, 04:18:45 PM   #7
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could clean up the stinky idle, depending what it is

and yes works well with hei. if you do, i recommend buying the msd remote cap. this removes the coil from top of distributor, preventing it from prematurley burning out.

that and run a blaster ss coil that are like 30$
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Old 04-07-2010, 04:42:55 PM   #8
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could clean up the stinky idle, depending what it is

and yes works well with hei. if you do, i recommend buying the msd remote cap. this removes the coil from top of distributor, preventing it from prematurley burning out.

that and run a blaster ss coil that are like 30$
Why not run the MSD coil that they make to run in the HEI cap?
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Old 04-07-2010, 05:44:44 PM   #9
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they're hitting it perfectly. was designed during the early to mid 70's for lean burn applications. seems that it was so much better at lighting the lean mixtures and increased the efficiency of the burn at low engine speeds for everyday drivers.

i'm using the cap adapt on an HEI housing. coil and MSD6AL box are inside the car on a trans tunnel plate to isolate from engine compartment heat.

The HEI distributor design has a decent terminal spacing in the cap design to help eliminate crossfiring within the cap.

if you go this route,, don't forget the better designed carbon button that contacts the rotor. the stock ones don't last very long.
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Old 04-07-2010, 05:53:54 PM   #10
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Why not run the MSD coil that they make to run in the HEI cap?

you could,, but over the long run,, the electronics will last longer if kept away from the heat,, like within the car vs underhood. jmo.
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Old 04-07-2010, 05:57:08 PM   #11
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If you have a perfectly adequate ignition system now you most likely won't notice a difference after the conversion.

If you have an ignition system that works fine until you hit the 200 shot of nitrous and it backfires and blows holes in your pistons, the MSD upgrade might be worth looking into.

If you have points ignition, an MSD will keep a tune better.
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Old 04-07-2010, 06:28:13 PM   #12
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If you go with the MSD 6AL you also get the rev limiter for added safety!
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Old 04-07-2010, 06:35:55 PM   #13
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...Also if your lazy and your carb is not tuned or spot on ,it will help with that and provide a cleaner burn. Like others have said ,don't forget the low resistance bushing under the coil , the stock ones will burn flat in no time. I'm also using a hypertech ign.coil in 1 car and an accel super coil in the other , with the MSD 6AL, no problems in the past 10 years, just my. 02, DC
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Old 04-07-2010, 07:13:56 PM   #14
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Thanks everyone for the help im definately looking forward to puting it in. Better gas milage n power works for me
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Old 04-07-2010, 07:29:18 PM   #15
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The Coil-less cap for the HEI and using the $30 Blaster Coil is a good idea too.

MSD gives instructions on how it is all wired.
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