Carbon fiber inner fender wells more clearance! - Page 2

79supergasdriver · 02-21-2009, 04:53:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ks71z28

Great question, well comment.

Carbon fiber is over TEN times stronger than steel by WEIGHT, When properly bolted up to the fenders and core support as a unit these will be more rigid than the stock pieces, The only difference is the yeild and failure point, Steel will deform in great amounts before failing, composite materials yield much less and fail much more spectacularly, I agree never run no inner fenders with out something like the g-braces, even you straigh line junkies can benefit from this.

Thanks for the informative reply. You've got a solid product line and apparent business savvy. Well done!

Just a tip: some of your potential customer base may take offense to being labeled "junkies"; I personally took it as a compliment.

ks71z28 · 02-21-2009, 04:08:39 PM

I hope you were not offended! I too am a junkie, I'm sure my resources and knowledge could be used in otherways to help benefit mankind on a larger scale, yet I persue the advancement of a car that even its maker abandoned 35 years ago! I'm sure my parents are proud, especially after helping me through college. I like the lifestyle and the people. I usually give a sarcastic attitude toward drag racing since my friends are all into straight line stuff and a car is measured by that. My car and style deviates from that, so I have run my car at the track and ran 12.70 @ 113, 60' times were 2.20 (yuck). But here if you don't run at least 12's you are a joke! Ultimately it is about the car, not what you choose to do with it. I use mine to run over orange cones in autocross, some think that is nuts

Keith

Mwilson · 02-22-2009, 12:53:02 AM

Nice site, im interested in a set as well just dont have cash to spend on the car at the moment.

79supergasdriver · 02-22-2009, 03:55:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ks71z28

I hope you were not offended! I too am a junkie, I'm sure my resources and knowledge could be used in otherways to help benefit mankind on a larger scale, yet I persue the advancement of a car that even its maker abandoned 35 years ago! Ultimately it is about the car, not what you choose to do with it. I use mine to run over orange cones in autocross, some think that is nuts

Certaintly not offended at all! On some greater scale, this hobby is an exploitation one of those three core concepts that make America (and our northern friends) a great place to exist "Life, Liberty,and the pursuit of happiness" Rock on!

Joe73LT · 02-22-2009, 08:14:17 AM

Good to see you're going to do them Keith. I haven't had a chance to put the bumpers on should be this week though at least for the fronts. Thanks again.

ks71z28 · 02-23-2009, 11:47:03 PM

OK, well had a chance to look at inner fenders, here are some shots and areas that will be modified. I will bring the upper lip of the inner fenders out, which will require trimming the fender slightly, maybe 1/4" along the top only. this should move the lip about 3/8" away from the tire. At the rear of the inner fenders I will create an inward relief to keep the tire from rubbing at full lock.

just some carbon fiber candy, this is a shot of the underside of one of my trunk lids. That is the most impressive part I make, and it hides inside the trunk!

ks71z28 · 02-23-2009, 11:51:04 PM

Damn, Mwilson 15,240 posts, that is 9.28 per day that is about the highest i have seen, man I love this site!

1981gMachine · 02-23-2009, 11:54:57 PM

If i had lots of cash laying around, I'd be one of your good customers.

1FstChevy · 02-24-2009, 12:19:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ks71z28

These will be fiberglass and carbon, there is no need for all carbon, the weight savings would be negligable. As for shipping I'm not sure how these will ship, but shipping will likely be about what a fender ships for.

Woah.... I was under the impression the 2 options were all fiberglass and all carbon??? Just like the all-carbon trunk lid!

I was hoping to have visable carbon fiber from outside the car when the wheels are turned @ full lock as well.

Perhaps the initial 5 person deposit crew is entitled to an all-carbon run???

ks71z28 · 02-24-2009, 12:49:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1981gMachine

If i had lots of cash laying around, I'd be one of your good customers.

Well if my site holds true to form, I am trying to provide parts that work, at an affordable level, well the carbon fiber is the exception. There are some suspensionparts being designed in house that are unique and functionable, I sell and can get anything so please keep me in mind when making any Camaro related purchases, when it comes to Valentines for the wifey, you are on your own.

ks71z28 · 02-24-2009, 12:56:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1FstChevy

Woah.... I was under the impression the 2 options were all fiberglass and all carbon??? Just like the all-carbon trunk lid!

I was hoping to have visable carbon fiber from outside the car when the wheels are turned @ full lock as well.

Perhaps the initial 5 person deposit crew is entitled to an all-carbon run???

Well there really is no need to put carbon on the inside, due to the fact that its job is to keep much out of your engine compartment. BTW I highly recomend using undercoating, as rocks and stuff can cause chips and spidercracks from the underside. On my racecar with fiberglass fenders I glued a thin layer of foam to the under side to cushion the impact. I know a guy who has a $100,000 vintage trans am racer, no inner fenders and there are reverse dings in his fenders from rocks! Not to worry here guys, a normal coat of undercoating on these inner fenders and no problems. I was posting this update to make sure everyone is cool with trimming 1/4" off the fenders to add the extra clearance, this would be an area approx 12" long at the top of the fender opening. I'm tired time for bed! well 24 first, then bed!

Keith
www.customworksproducts.com

Lemons · 02-24-2009, 01:05:49 AM

Keith,

I have been following the development of some of your parts for quite some time, and to say I'm interested is an understatement. Unfortunately, my financial situation isn't where I would like it to be, but when it is, I'll be hitting you up for some parts.

I am also very glad to see that you have a website, and I plan to visit it often as you continue to work on more parts. You are doing exactly what I had dreamed about doing. I went to college and got my engineering degree to further my hobby, both with money and knowledge. I'd love to help out if I could. I have a lot to learn, but I also have a lot of passion.

Anyways, I'm glad to see that things are progressing.

Chris

ks71z28 · 02-24-2009, 01:42:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemons

Keith,

I have been following the development of some of your parts for quite some time, and to say I'm interested is an understatement. Unfortunately, my financial situation isn't where I would like it to be, but when it is, I'll be hitting you up for some parts.

I am also very glad to see that you have a website, and I plan to visit it often as you continue to work on more parts. You are doing exactly what I had dreamed about doing. I went to college and got my engineering degree to further my hobby, both with money and knowledge. I'd love to help out if I could. I have a lot to learn, but I also have a lot of passion.

Anyways, I'm glad to see that things are progressing.

Chris

Chris,

want a job! I have been toying with an intern, I am a Chico State grad, and I was a major part of our win at Westech in 2004 and our carbon fiber full suspension mountainbike, the next year we brought a wooden truck, needless to say I declined the offer to be the head presenter, we got 2nd place. Anyhow I really appreciate the encouragement. My consulting business has pretty much dried up and I am making almost no money, but hey, it is exciting By the way a RS front spoiler will be happening, maybe by May. just sneaking that in...

1FstChevy · 02-24-2009, 05:00:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ks71z28

...I was posting this update to make sure everyone is cool with trimming 1/4" off the fenders to add the extra clearance, this would be an area approx 12" long at the top of the fender opening...
Keith
www.customworksproducts.com

This 12" is some stamping thats actually inside of the fender and not visable from the outside or engine bay correct?

Not sure how comfortable I'd be with cutting vs. bolt on and go. Not that I'd ever replace the carbon units with OEM steel but if the need arose it would be a nightmare to have to replace the orignal fenders to get them to match up to OEM fender wells.

ks71z28 · 02-24-2009, 10:12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1FstChevy

This 12" is some stamping thats actually inside of the fender and not visable from the outside or engine bay correct?

Not sure how comfortable I'd be with cutting vs. bolt on and go. Not that I'd ever replace the carbon units with OEM steel but if the need arose it would be a nightmare to have to replace the orignal fenders to get them to match up to OEM fender wells.

the fender goes above the inner fender and what material that would be removed would not bee seen, all you would be doing is moving the 90* radius circled in the photo out toward the wheel, the the fender would ned to be clearance so they would bolt up together, comprende???? Clear as mud! I will have better photos when I actually start this next week, hopefully

Keith