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03-20-2012, 08:57:49 AM
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Oops. Pete,you are in Canada. Canada has documents on the cars sold there. The US doesnt have any such documents.
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Even 1970 Norwood cars?
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03-20-2012, 09:00:56 AM
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It is all a lot of work for a 1970 Z28, that's why it is usually only done on $250K copo cars.
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Agreed. The average market for a great original 1970 Z28 is about $45K tops right now. You make more money if you cheat on the "rare" stuff.
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03-20-2012, 09:13:29 AM
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They made almost 20,000 Z's in 1970,and I bet 19,000 of them were beaten like POS rental cars for the first 30 years of their life. 1970 Zs were considered worthless trailer trash fodder until maybe 10 or 15 years ago.
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You really don't like the 1970 Z28 do you? And they made 8733 of them. I think there may be 50 original drivetrain cars left of that number, using my very un-scientific poll...most people blew up the original motor because there was no rev-limiter on it and most car guys are really stupid! 
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03-20-2012, 12:35:04 PM
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Even 1970 Norwood cars?
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Yes. I have the doc from the Vintage group and even long before the Vintage group started Larry Davidson was doing it on the side in the GM Parts Building. So I have one from Larry and the other from George Zapora.
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03-20-2012, 12:42:24 PM
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You really don't like the 1970 Z28 do you? And they made 8733 of them. I think there may be 50 original drivetrain cars left of that number, using my very un-scientific poll...most people blew up the original motor because there was no rev-limiter on it and most car guys are really stupid! 
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Do you know how many of them where RS z28s?
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03-20-2012, 01:36:08 PM
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Do you know how many of them where RS z28s?
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Well, I own a sport coupe, so at most one less than 8733? 
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03-20-2012, 01:37:00 PM
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Yes. I have the doc from the Vintage group and even long before the Vintage group started Larry Davidson was doing it on the side in the GM Parts Building. So I have one from Larry and the other from George Zapora.
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I don't understand what you are trying to convey. Is this a Canadian thing because of exports?
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03-20-2012, 02:39:20 PM
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Yes,it only pertains to cars shipped to Canada. I dont think the record are even in the US,it was more of an action on the part of the Canadians.
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03-20-2012, 08:34:51 PM
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Well, I own a sport coupe, so at most one less than 8733? 
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they're all sport coupes , the only other model is ( until 77 ) the Type LT ( FS87 not FQ87 ) which appears in 73 . all camaros were the FQ87 sport coupe with various or no options on them
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03-20-2012, 08:44:59 PM
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they're all sport coupes , the only other model is ( until 77 ) the Type LT ( FS87 not FQ87 ) which appears in 73 . all camaros were the FQ87 sport coupe with various or no options on them
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The 1970 standard front end was always just called the Sport Coupe. The funny nose front end was always called the Rally Sport. You can always add Coupe to Rally Sport but that's the way we keep track of what they are.
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03-20-2012, 09:14:28 PM
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rally sport was an option , sport coupe was the model . they are two diffrent things . but i get your drift .
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03-20-2012, 09:21:24 PM
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Sc Z28?
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03-20-2012, 09:42:24 PM
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= FQ87 with RPOZ28 . with the rally sport option would be a FQ87 with RPO Z28 and RPO Z22 .
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03-21-2012, 01:12:55 PM
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All 70-81 Camaros were sports coupes. Other variations of what would be in that box would be a code for convertable,station wagone,2 or 4 door sedan,and 4 door hardtop. All of which never came on 2nd gen Camaros. Even 70-81 Firebirds were sports coupes.
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1973 Camaro hot rod owned since 1989 runs high 12's. Mild 408 small block,th350,3.08 gears,ice cold a/c pumpin system ect.
1973 Firebird owned since 1994 runs mid 10's on motor and mid 9's on a 250 shot. BBC 439 2 speed,4.88 12 bolt,3600# full street car.
2011 Camaro RS,Jewel Tint.
2003 Silverado HD2500 and Wife's 2004 Malibu Maxx. Keeping my Family ALL GM!!!
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