Hey guys. I'm looking for a 3" exhaust kit that comes already made up. Problem around here is there is only 1 person that i know of that can bend a 3" exhaust and they are OUT TO LUNCH on their prices.

THX in advance

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'81 Viper Blue Z-28
383 Stroker
AFR210cc
Comp Solid Roller
Victor Jr.
750 Mighty Demon
4:10 Rear End
TH-400, 9.5" 4200 stall
N.O.S. Cheater 150-250

11.74 @ 116 motor
10.57 @ 125 on the 210 pills

Torque-tech has 3" exhaust systems for 70-81 camaros(among many other models) at a decent price. Go to their web-site and request a free catalog.

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Confucius says " he who uses small, crimped exhaust, gets short of breath"

TA Performance (the rear girdle company) now sells mandrel bent tubing kits, w or w/o mufflers and I think they are cheaper.

Chase

This is their 3" kit and it's $319.00
http://www.taperformance.com/_derived/systems.htm_txt_2006B.gif

[This message has been edited by Botlfed73Z (edited October 15, 2003).]

Ok guys thx.

I like the price of the 2nd one! Anyone know how the fit is?

Torquetech also makes a 3 1/2" system that fits GREAT!!! T/A system looks nice but the TorqueTech systems are a little more complete (they come with a H pipe)Mind you that all of these systems require offset in, opposit offset out mufflers....

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1970 1/2 RS Z28 S.B., Pump Gas, Radials, Full Tails ( 3 1/2" ) 10.59 @ 129

Is the TA performence 3 inch kit without muffelers a complete system ( i mean from headers to tailpipe, excluding muffelers.)also is it dual?

Yes, it is a complete collector-back kit. They also offer it in kit forms with mufflers.

Chase

Yes, it is a complete collector-back kit. They also offer it in kit forms with mufflers.

Chase

I just got my 3" exhasut kit - HeartThrob makes it. Also got it with the h-pipe (the cross pipe is angled http://www.nastyz28.com/ubb/smile.gif).
Paid $300 including S&H to my place with the h-pipe.

I'd post pix, but I can't open tha pieces up inside the house (no room inside/ white carpet upstairs)...but its sunny outside and I might try it outside today. I'll place my 40 series FlowZ in place to show off http://www.nastyz28.com/ubb/wink.gif

RSCAMARO,

I found their website but not much information on them. Has anyone else used these systems?

Let's see those pics!

What about casspypes?

<font face="Arial,Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Stroked-Z:
RSCAMARO,

I found their website but not much information on them. Has anyone else used these systems?

Let's see those pics!</font>

Here's the Heart Throb installed with Summit Racing turbo mufflers:

http://community.webshots.com/album/74189206ubSNDz

I didn't get the cross-over.

<font face="Arial,Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Stroked-Z:
RSCAMARO,

I found their website but not much information on them. Has anyone else used these systems?

Let's see those pics!</font>


CLICK HERE FOR MY EXHAUST PIX (http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/351227/4)

There's a couple pix.....I did get the h-pipe though....got 3" 40 series to replace the 2 1/2" 40 series I had on the shelf...that (selling the old ones) reduced the overall cost I incurred...


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[This message has been edited by rscamaro73 (edited March 21, 2004).]

I just got the 2.5" system from Pypes. I have not installed it but it looks great so far. Their 3.0" system is configured different but here's a link. This is an X-pipe system and the exhaust tips shown are optional.

http://www.pypesexhaust.com/sys-camaro.html



[This message has been edited by Zee (edited March 22, 2004).]

Zee,

When you get the exhaust on, could you let me know how it fit? I pass by Pypes all the time, and was considering buying from them since I wouldn't have to ship.

Those are some fine lookin mufflers Wayne.

It says on the pypes page that the 3" x pipe will not quite fit. Is this because the 3" pipes are to large to fit in the driveshaft line or what? I'd assume they would have to go under the floorboard if this were the case. So they would really kill your ground clearance. Are there any ways around this? I really like the looks of their exhaust systems, but that could be a killer. Is it even possible to fit a 3" system in?

(I would measure and plot it myself, but I don't have the car yet)

-Andrew

No the 3" system does fit but not as well as the 2.5". This is because the radius neccessary to make the bend out of the "X" with a 3" tube places the pipes too wide to run down the driveshaft tunnel.

IMHO, If you must have a 3" system with good ground clearance, the X pipe is not the way to go. The Pypes 2.5" system offers much better ground clearance.

I'm having a set of custom headers built so I have not finished my my exhaust system yet.

You very well could be right. I'm debating sizes right now. I guess if I really had to, I could break out a calculator and measure how many cfm's I will need to flow, but I think when all is said and done the 2.5" won't cut it. And, in my opinion, the x pipe is the best performer because it balances out your exhaust and also cuts down on a lot of resonating frequencies.

Would a 2.5" X pipe flow well enough to break 500whp?

That's nearly 600bhp so I doubt it.

i just got done instaling my 3" mandural bent exhaust on my camaro and love it came with all mounts and brackets 200 bucks from jegs and its a Jegs exhaust
i used afterburner mufflers with this kit also makes a very nice sound but not to loud

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1980 Camaro white/red, building 350 4 bolt 400hp 450fpt, TH350 B&M street/strip shift kit, eagle 3 spoke rims, air ride

I just put in pypes 3" tail pipes and made up the rest myself.
The tail pipes don't fit very well at all. (Nothing is ever 'bolt on')
I cut about 3 1/2" out of the part right above the axel, weld them back up, then it was a nice fit. I had to weld on a couple of peices of flat bar for the hangers to get them to hang where I wanted.
Or mabey I just didn't know what the hell I was doing. But it did turn out pretty nice.
http://upload.79camaro.com/uploads/2004/tailpypes1.JPG
http://upload.79camaro.com/uploads/2004/weldaboveaxel1.JPG
http://upload.79camaro.com/uploads/2004/worlockmufflers1.JPG


For what it cost me for the 3" pipe, mufflers, and tailpipes, s/s band clamps and 3 days bending/cutting/fitting/welding, the 1 1/2" cut over my left eye (torque wrench slipped) and 3 nickle sized 3rd degree burns on my right arm (welding), around $600 Can. I could easily have gotten a professional shop to build the exaust system, and they probably would have done a nicer job...
but its my car, and I built it!

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73RS/LT/427

[This message has been edited by ZS10 (edited July 05, 2004).]

I recently bought and installed Pypes 3" X system on my 73 Super Duty Trans/Am. Yes the ground clearance is an issue, but not on a car that is primarily a bracket race car. I did not have to cut off very much at all on the tailpipes, but the bird may be a little different. I havent had much luck with posting pics, but I do have a web site, on it there are some good pics of the installed system. BTW ZS10 I noticed your mufflers exit on the oppoiste side than mine do, could that cause the fit problems? I used offset in offset out Dynomax UltraFlows if that helps.
Jeff http://groups.msn.com/NWSUPERDUTY455TRANSAM/_whatsnew.msnw
http://www


[This message has been edited by NW S/D (edited July 06, 2004).]

<font face="Arial,Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by ZS10:
I just put in pypes 3" tail pipes and made up the rest myself.
The tail pipes don't fit very well at all. (Nothing is ever 'bolt on')
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Z10, the reason the tails didn't fit well is they are designed for offset OUT (at the back) mufflers. You have your mufflers coming in on the outside and going out on the inside. http://www.nastyz28.com/ubb/frown.gif I'm impressed you got them to fit at all. http://www.nastyz28.com/ubb/smile.gif Good job! Should be pretty interesting when you open up those dumps.



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<font face="Arial,Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by xxtavixx:
It says on the pypes page that the 3" x pipe will not quite fit. Is this because the 3" pipes are to large to fit in the driveshaft line or what? I'd assume they would have to go under the floorboard if this were the case. So they would really kill your ground clearance. Are there any ways around this? I really like the looks of their exhaust systems, but that could be a killer. Is it even possible to fit a 3" system in?
-Andrew</font>

The warning is just to COA! Many installations of the 3" system on the F body are in use but that's a big pipe to run under the floor so steep driveways, speed bumps etc can be an issue depending on your suspension components. As mentioned by Zee, 3" just plain doesn't fit in the driveshaft tunnel. One important point....the 3" X crossover will be no lower than a straight 3" no crossover system. So if you want 3", you will have at least the same issues with any 3" system you choose. Probably the most important consideration is a good set of headers that don't hang to low to start with.



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You can fit a 3" system with a crossover in the tunnel in our cars EASILY!! I just don't understand why Pypes can't make them, Magnaflow has a universal X that looks really nice, with outlets that will let you put your pipes in the tunnel, Flowmaster has a D port crossover the lets you put your pipes in the tunnel, and you can always maek one liek my friend did. Check out my post in the X pipe post. I have a 3" system with a crossover that tucks up nicely

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<font face="Arial,Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by yody:
You can fit a 3" system with a crossover in the tunnel in our cars EASILY!! I just don't understand why Pypes can't make them, Magnaflow has a universal X that looks really nice, with outlets that will let you put your pipes in the tunnel, Flowmaster has a D port crossover the lets you put your pipes in the tunnel,</font>

Yody, That is a really nice system! The FM crossover is a very different design than ours. That design helps low end torque better than ours, our design helps high end better than theirs. We can't use our design and have it still fit in the tunnel area. Also, with 3" there is only about 1" clearance to gain by staying in the tunnel. For stock ride height F bodies 3" under the floors is adequate for most driving situations.

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Fool around, get hurt, don't come crying to me

Carm by the time mine was installed I had between $700 and $800 in it, that was buying the Flowmaster crossover kit and mufflers, Hooker collecter extensions, aluminized pipe, etc myself and dropping it all off at my buddies trans/exhaust shop for installation. I had him install 2 1/4 tails that were removable, never really saw a difinitive difference at the track but the car was definately quieter with it on. My car is tight between the diff and floorpan even with the 2 1/4's, 3" must take some serious bends to get it to follow the bends of the back seat bottom/seat back area without rubbing on there or the axle tubes. Too bad running tails under the diff and fuel tank look so tacky.
With the use of my trailer, my exhaust, like so many parts I've purchased over the years, will surely end up in the corner gathering dust.

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A Canadian, EH? (with a 10 second street car)

I've got a 2 1/2" x-pipe undernieth my car,So why wouldn't a 3"???

Rustbucket, old post lol!

I already have the Pypes 3" system with X pipe & UltraFlows.....sounds AMAZING and fit was very good.

I don't think i will ever go back to a flowmaster now http://www.nastyz28.com/ubb/smile.gif

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'81 Viper Blue Z-28
383 Stroker
11.74 @ 116 N/A
10.57 @ 125 w/ NOS

That's what you get for not looking at the original post LOL.
When's your track open?
I'm sure mine's June but have trailer will travel this year, first race (hope to be) April 23rd, that's 3 months!!
Time to "get at 'er!"

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A Canadian, EH? (with a 10 second street car)

Track is "scheduled" for April 16th.....more most likely last April when the snow is gone!

God damn snow.....prob a good thing though, because i would run myself into a slum if i could race that car all year!

No doubt!! My "racing" bills haven't reduced one bit since September, it seems a grand a month or better is going towards car parts. I have Koni's for all 4 corners this year to improve the traction situation, a T/A girdle for the diff, engine rebuild parts, rods, etc. It may never end...

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Custom Auto, your source for quality machine work, cores and new parts at competetive pricing right here in British Columbia 1-888-563-4050
A Canadian, EH? (with a 10 second street car)

The bills never end!

I'm just happy to NOT be building another motor this season!