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citrusz
09-14-2007, 04:55:27 PM
What is the correct part number on the backside of a window crank handle for a 1970 with standard interior? Does any supplier make a reproduction that looks and works correctly? Thanks

jacsey 70Z
09-14-2007, 06:32:40 PM
My 70 has Deluxe interior (not sure it matters) 9715291-A1 didn't want to take a chance in removing, so you have to read backwards.
Not sure who makes a correct one, but try to find one with the correct amount of yellowing in the knob!!
Jack

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL17/1627096/6963648/278140452.jpg

COPO
09-14-2007, 10:59:11 PM
Mine came with these with deluxe interior.

http://ca.geocities.com/mlvd@rogers.com/images/window_crank.jpg

71 Camaro
09-14-2007, 11:48:41 PM
They are ez to find. Even auto parts stores might have one. Somebody mentioned a while ago that almost all window cranks on GM cars were pretty much the same for a lot of years. A fine suggestion was to find a 4 door 70s GM product in the boneyard and grab the little used rear door cranks.

70 SS/L78
09-16-2007, 12:54:55 AM
Mine came with these with deluxe interior.


Wow Mark, I've never seen window cranks like that on a 2nd gen. Camaro before... even with deluxe interior.:cool:



I've collected quite a few window cranks and many have different ##'s with very little or no difference between them.

Repro's don't look nearly as good as the originals....

3SLO5
09-16-2007, 01:05:10 AM
the repros are also wobbely in some situations and are not tight on the shaft and the bend is crappy and they hit the door pannels oer ones i had sucked but the ones i got from npd were better quality even though they were repro.

DANZ
09-16-2007, 10:15:16 AM
Mine came with these with deluxe interior.

http://ca.geocities.com/mlvd@rogers.com/images/window_crank.jpg
Must be a Canadian thing.LOL

camaro73lt
09-16-2007, 08:42:36 PM
If anyone has a fix for wobbly windows cranks, please let me know. My new ones have this problem. I hate it when vendors sell you "OEM" fitting parts and they just suck. I was thinking of taking the old handles and putting new buttons on with a rivet gun or screw. Anyone tried this or have a good source for decent ones?

COPO
09-16-2007, 09:41:46 PM
If anyone has a fix for wobbly windows cranks, please let me know. My new ones have this problem. I hate it when vendors sell you "OEM" fitting parts and they just suck. I was thinking of taking the old handles and putting new buttons on with a rivet gun or screw. Anyone tried this or have a good source for decent ones?

Take a ballpean hammer and hammer the orig rivit to tighten it.

BTW, my car was ordered by GM Experimental and who knows where they dug up the window crank from. I think they were trying to hide what the car was, since it didn't come with a rear Z28 emblem on the rear spoiler. It was suppose to be crushed and not sold to the public after all the testing. They wanted this to be a killer car because some options were changed after they got it or was changed at the factory after the options were typed into the system to point to my VIN. Such things as the on paper 3.73 gears were changed for 4.10's which worked better with the M20 wide ratio tranny they ordered.

70to73CamaroGuy
09-16-2007, 11:23:12 PM
Black ones are still available through GM - 20348200

If you want clear ones, there is an NOS set on EBAY:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NOS-CHEVELLE-CUTLASS-CAMARO-GTO-WINDOW-CRANKS-HANDLES_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ42606QQihZ004QQitemZ140156573804QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

71 Camaro
09-16-2007, 11:32:54 PM
If anyone has a fix for wobbly windows cranks, please let me know. My new ones have this problem. I hate it when vendors sell you "OEM" fitting parts and they just suck. I was thinking of taking the old handles and putting new buttons on with a rivet gun or screw. Anyone tried this or have a good source for decent ones?

I've fixed em by driving a short fat pan head screw into the knob from the back.

flowjoe
09-17-2007, 03:46:21 AM
....Such things as the on paper 3.73 gears were changed for 4.10's which worked better with the M20 wide ratio tranny they ordered.
4.10's worked better with an M20?? Really?

COPO
09-17-2007, 04:46:59 PM
Quicker 1/4 mi.

Getting back on topic here, remember that the deluxe interior used a different crank handle than the std interior and there was a spring inside the hole too.

jacsey 70Z
09-17-2007, 05:17:12 PM
Here's a picture of my deluxe interior door handle, does anyone have a picture of a standard interior? just wondering what the difference is.
Jack

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL17/1627096/6963648/278730131.jpg

COPO
09-17-2007, 07:10:08 PM
Jack, the deluxe came with a wider curved arm allowing easier turning due to the thicker deluxe door panel.
Are those 2 slots I see on yours?

Budz
09-17-2007, 07:34:10 PM
Jack.........Are those 2 slots I see on yours?

I don't think so Mark. Look at his pic above. It look's like the solid handle.

70rat
09-17-2007, 08:43:38 PM
Jack, the deluxe came with a wider curved arm allowing easier turning due to the thicker deluxe door panel.

Isn't the window regulator shaft longer so it will clear the deluxe door panels?That's why they have that spacer.

flowjoe
09-17-2007, 09:56:35 PM
Jack, the deluxe came with a wider curved arm allowing easier turning due to the thicker deluxe door panel.
Are those 2 slots I see on yours?
Just as for 1st gen the arm is not wider but rather the curve is deeper in profile. And as I understand things, you are correct, it is to allow for clearance of the thicker panel.

flowjoe
09-17-2007, 09:57:20 PM
I don't think so Mark. Look at his pic above. It look's like the solid handle.
I agree.

COPO
09-18-2007, 09:33:33 AM
Can we see them side by side. Deluxe and std.

flowjoe
09-18-2007, 03:39:41 PM
...and there was a spring inside the hole too.
In 1st gens the standard intriors have springs also...I belive that '70s do also.

I don't have any original deluxe window cranks...well, I have some '67s but those look compeltely different

boardog
06-24-2011, 04:56:46 PM
are the window cranks for a deluxe int. available? sorry about bringing up a old thread.

Smokey34
06-24-2011, 07:38:08 PM
Hey Boardog, I was just mulling over a similar question about the window cranks in this thread -> http://www.nastyz28.com/forum/showthread.php?t=215632

Actually, you may know the answer as I believe you've restored quite a few of these, so maybe you can chime in. - Were the window cranks with black knobs used in 1970 Camaro's ?


I found these on ebay - but do not think they are what you are looking for, although I was surprised to call my local dealership and these black handled ones are still available over the counter. - My local dealership had no way to find the part number, but once I provided it, they were able to check. - Maybe if you can find a part number for the deluxe ones, you might have the same luck with a dealer near you.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220793960945&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AL%3AOC%3AUS%3A1123

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Thanks !

boardog
06-24-2011, 08:47:00 PM
the 72 i have now had the clear ones, almost all the 1970 cars i have seen also have the clear ones, someone correct me if i am wrong.

M21RSZ28
06-25-2011, 01:28:56 AM
Window crank handles for all 1970 Camaro's used clear knobs with std or deluxe interiors

1967-68 Camaros used color coded window crank handles per Gm Parts Catalogs

1970 Camaro:
With Standard Door Panel used the handle with 9717838 or 9718137 casting number
With Deluxe Door Panel used the handle with 9715291 casting number

1969 Camaro used the same handles with clear knob as 1970 Camaros
9715291 knob for front and 9717838 for rear knobs

Pics below show the difference in the bends for the std vs deluxe handles for 1970 Camaro
Note the clear plastic has yellowed from the sun.

The 291 handle used with deluxe door panel does just barely clear the upper area on the standard door panel
(may touch in one spot on some cars)

None of my deluxe interiors (Van Nuys) have the added spring behind the knob

Jan April and Sept 1970 dated Camaro only parts catalogs do not list the spring

The spring is only listed in the GM of Canada parts catalogs for 1967-71 Camaro


M21RSZ28


http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/M21RSZ28/NASTY%20Z28/000_2710A.jpg


http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/M21RSZ28/NASTY%20Z28/000_2709A.jpg

Smokey34
06-25-2011, 12:52:01 PM
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Hello M21RSZ28,

Those pictures are fantastic. Thank you very much for taking the time to post them. - That will certainly help me understand what I need to be looking for to make the door panels correct.

Thanks so much !

twozs
06-25-2011, 11:49:29 PM
my 73 z has the clear . http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh155/stinsonz/crank.jpg http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh155/stinsonz/shifterhighgear002.jpg

Z28PILOT
06-26-2011, 12:04:02 AM
what was the part number on the 73 handles.?

twozs
06-26-2011, 12:10:10 AM
maybe tomorrow ; i don't fell like chasing the clip . i have the removal tool . what number should i be ???? like ive always stated , I'm not the original owner . even if its wrong ill give it to you ( the # )

Z28PILOT
06-26-2011, 12:27:46 AM
Man , I'm not really sure, my knobs have not yellowed at all, so I suppose they are repros ....:p .I see yours are yellowed a bit , probally original, I see about 10,000 different part numbers on ebay and I haven't a clue ..really.

Well maybe mine are NOT repros after all...Don't need to remove them to check, I took a flashlight rolled the window down and peeked , mine are the 9717838 and they have a tiny coach cast into them as well, maybe it means fisher body?

I have an awesome cond matched pair of 20037599 window cranks from a 73 NOVA , the knobs have just a hint of yellow and no play . No coach cast into the handle. just the number.

from the outside I see no diff from the 9717838 and my 20037599

twozs
06-26-2011, 01:22:21 AM
yours are probably right . mine are off a 69 camaro with deluxe interior # 2032200 made in Canada . ( not the camaro the window crank ) probably worth something to some 69 owner

COPO
07-13-2011, 09:05:09 PM
If anyone has a fix for wobbly windows cranks, please let me know. My new ones have this problem. I hate it when vendors sell you "OEM" fitting parts and they just suck. I was thinking of taking the old handles and putting new buttons on with a rivet gun or screw. Anyone tried this or have a good source for decent ones?

It's tighter if you use the GM locking clips since they are shorter.

DCL70
07-28-2011, 08:53:12 PM
Were window crank handles date coded?

Pictured is a standard interior window crank handle with casting "9717838" that I removed from a junk yard 1970 Camaro VIN 12387N546973 made the 4th week of May 1970 ("05D") in the early 1990's. There is also a "5B" (possibly 2nd week of May???) casting above the stage coach casting.