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80'427
10-13-2005, 08:59:00 AM
http://www.lubedev.com/smartgas/additive.htm

Sure seems like B.S. to me.

AJ_72
10-13-2005, 12:11:00 PM
But it isn't BS.

I used it recently to see what it would do in my '04 Pontiac Vibe. I went from 31.5 average to 34.4 average.

My last 2 fill ups I didn't have the acetone with me (I don't feel safe leaving it inside http://www.nastyz28.com/ubb/wink.gif) and my milage fell back down to 31.5.

That's about a 9% increase. And when you drive 92.2 miles round trip to/from work like I do, that's a lot.

I'm sure I'd get a higher increase if my trip didn't involve so many stops along the way.

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steve80
10-13-2005, 02:39:00 PM
I think it's worth a shot. An interesting site to say the least.

Three MPG might not be a huge increase if you already get 30+, but it would be a much larger improvement if you started at 12-16 MPG. If you had 12 MPG and it gave you 15, that would be a 25% improvement.

steve80
10-13-2005, 02:46:00 PM
It can't be that much. It's the active ingredient in nail polish remover and while I don't know how much that is, I suspect 2 ounces per 10 gallons would make it cheaper than the additives in the auto parts stores.

Little Naples
10-13-2005, 03:33:00 PM
Junk science...pure and simple......I used to work for a company that designed gasoline refineries....these are not stupid people....if all this garbage that people claim would increase milage really worked (with no negative effects) engineers would have been on top of it 75 years ago....the blanket statement that all corporations are greedy may or not be true, but think about it....if it really worked the oil companies would add it, the EPA would be happy and they could charge MORE for gas and make less of it.....there has to be a good reason it's never been used...either it doesn't work or it's bad for your engine....anytime you use something and are hyper aware of your milage you automatically driver smoother and slower....that's why the milage goes up.

hhott71
10-13-2005, 03:48:00 PM
we see the articles. yet we never see someone we know do it and report back what happened.
, Maybe the 15 gallons of gas they filled up with is still going 3 weeks later and they have driven too far away they can't reach a computer.... http://www.nastyz28.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif

shovelhead73
10-13-2005, 03:54:00 PM
When we were racing karts we used acetone to boost HP, it does work. Only problem is it eats rubber and seals. We had to flush out after every event..... Not a long term solution unless your have hard lines the full length.

pdq67
10-14-2005, 11:08:00 PM
I can go from about 32 or so running 77 mph to 40.5 or so running 5 to 10 mph UNDER the speed limit driving EASY everywhere so think about it for a minute. And, 58 to 62 mph on the highway

ANd I wonder if it is so??

pdq67

asphaltburner
10-15-2005, 01:53:00 AM
I have to agree with Little Naples. "Baffle them with bullshit" is the saying. Acetone is used to remove nail polish, imagine what it could do for your cylinder lubrication. Alcohol is used to "dry up" water and changes it, it does not attract it! I took four years of chemistry and I don't believe stuff just because someone writes it. I recall when it was thought that methanol additives would shorten engine life,...I remember when it was thought that lead free gas would burn valves,...I've seen adds saying that you can put a little magnetizer around your gasoline line to "align the gas molecules" and get better gas mileage due to a denser fuel mixture! How 'bout when we used to inject water vapor to gain horsepower? Remember the "250 mpg" carb that was independantly designed and was "bought up by the oil companies so we'd never see it"! And the world was flat, and the moon was made of green cheese! I'll believe it when I see the statistics,...PROVE it to me with a proper sample of cars and a control group,...a test done by an independant testing agency and with engine teardowns and inspections after 100,000 miles or more. God, I have a '42 JD tractor that is designed to run on anything that will burn. Doesn't mean my Camaro will! Why not run a little tolulene, xylene, mineral spirits, naptha, or nitromethane? A small injection of nitros oxide? Todd.

2ndgen79camarors
10-15-2005, 02:07:00 AM
I use the acetone myself. when i first started using it it increased my gas mileage from 11 to 13.5mpg. If you use more than 3 ounces gas mileage usually decreases a bit. Acetone burns around 150 octane, I believe. Ive been using it a month with no side effects, my car has never ran so smooth. By using 3 ounces per ever 10 gallons.

Kerosene gives better gas mileage, but I dont recommend it as most gaskets break down. If anyone has a idea to stop that with kerosene i would appreciate it. That improved my mileage 5mpg before all of this. I used to to remove carbon from my motor

2ndgen79camarors
10-15-2005, 02:10:00 AM
Sorry for the second post. But i noticed someone says it dries out the parts, that is why it is such a small percentage. the 10% methanol that is added to fuel does the same thing i believe. and it attracts water into the gas anyway

asphaltburner
10-15-2005, 03:09:00 AM
MTBE (methyl tert-butyl ether) disolves in water, but does not attract it. Any water in your gas got there another way. Todd.

BonzoHansen
10-15-2005, 12:53:00 PM
what about damage to other parts, like the cat converter? I know lead will chew them up fast, but I have no idea of the science and am just thorwing this out there.

asphaltburner
10-15-2005, 02:50:00 PM
BonzoHansen has an excellent point. And what about O2 sensor (if you have one), acetone vapors in the crankcase, rocker covers, valley, PCV valve back to the carb, etc,...again, don't just talk about it and expect me to try adding something to my fuel, PROVE IT with a scientific study. Gee, wonder why we haven't seen one of those if this stuff is so great? Especially with the gas shortage and prices! And, a thought,...sugar has carbon atoms and would burn, why not add that to your gas(Seem to remember some of my peers destroying engines THAT way a long time ago!)? Todd.

asphaltburner
10-16-2005, 12:02:00 PM
Did some internet research and found an engineering site that stated that there is no real scientific research on acetone as a fuel additive. It's at: http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=135254&page=1 All other articles and discussions trace back to Louis Lapointe. Doesn't sound too convincing to me. Just thought you might like to know, Todd.