Anybody use this stuff? Its supposed to beat all of the leading lubricants... Marvel Mystery oil, Lucas, Dura Lube, Amsoil etc...
Click on this link, listen to the introduction (took a minute to start) , and then after, click on the competition. tell me what you think..

http://motorkote.com/demo/

I saw the demo and it looks pretty convincing! Pretty neat stuff!

I can believe the video. In fact, I'll bet that the technology that the Motorkote is based on is at least 20 years old, maybe more. I have a friend that's a Lubrication Engineer for Mobil since the late 70's. Back in '83 he gave me a bottle of this reddish oil that looked like tranny oil. It was jet turbine additive for militry helicopters. It cost $500 a QUART. This was from a batch that had a minor impurity, hence it was garbage for military use. This is FACT. I saw this with my own eyes. He put this stuff into his nearly new JEEP Cherokee. with the small, carb'd V-8. After about 1 minute the idle RPM went up from 750 to 1200 and stayed there. We backed off the throttle untill the screw fell out. It never dropped below 1100. We drained the oil and put in the cheapest stuff SEARS sold. It stayed at 1100. It took nearly 6 mos for the idle to finally drop back to 900. After a year of cheap oil, it finally came back to 750. The only way to get it off the metal was to basically grind it off. After that, he ran about 1/2 pint / change. He retired the JEEP after he ran it for 150k, gave it to his kid, and at 225K miles, it rusted beyond salvation. We pulled the thing apart for the hell of it. The cam looked like it had 10k miles on. Same for lifters. Still had visible hone marks on cylinders, and virtually NO vertical scoring. Bearings could've gone forever. Valve guides and stems were well within spec. No significant rocker arm wear. Absolutely amazing. The trans never had any work on it beyond fluid. The point is, there are lubes available that are so advanced that we'll never see them. They were paid for with military or private money and belong to those parties. They are special use lubes, all synthetic, and incredibly expensive. So where's the market for it? Only $20 million aircraft, ships etc...where the cost is calculated in and maintanance is prohibitive, so it's cheaper to avoid problems like wear up-front. These engines had to be able to run with complete oil loss. Zero oil without a seize-up. He always said motor oil is as prehistoric as the dead dinosaurs it comes from. But motor oil has to deal with a wide range of environments, able to suspend contaminents, be a coolant, a lubricant, not varnish up under high heat, clean with detergent additives, parrafins for "stickiness" etc...these special lubes work in a narrower environment. Some work great in super cold, but when hot, they gum up. I once built racing bicycles for top pros. I used a few lubes my friend gave me for the bikes. The ball bearings were beyond mil-spec for roundness etc...same for the bearing races. REAL high end stuff. Each loose ball was about $1 in the 80's. A hub rebuild, after about 10k miles, was $75-100. Ouch. I put this lube in, a light yellow oil. Rolled it around. Never touched it again. As long as sand didn't get past the seals, I never touched the bearings again. Hundreds of hubs, dozens of crank bearings (which are underdesigned for the loads they carry) and I NEVER had a bearing or race failure. I saw this same lube used on the bearing wear test like in the video. It's a standard engineering test. The lube I used wouldn't come off. The only way to get it off was with a grinder. I wish I could've used it on everything, but I couldn't. Cost was $300 a fluid OUNCE, and it wasn't for sale anyhow. It was for Grunman Aerospace. The grease was even more expensive. And the kicker....these lubes often work well on extremely high quality bearings that are super-smooth to begin with. These lubes have little or no cushion effect like petroleum-derived products do. Cheap industrial grade bearings, under high magnification, look like chipped rocks. The super-lubes are often small molecules, and there is no additive for this cushion. Typical additives like moly would actually clog up the bearing space on a super-bearing. That's why motor oils have parrafins, moly, lead, zinc etc...to fill those voids a bit. Cheap bearings, even with super-lubes, will grind themselves away sooner or later. So poorly machined surfaces (by aerospace standards), and wider tolerances might be better with regular lubes. My friend said that something like a car engine might be better with regular oil for a time, then the super lubes as a supplement later on after it's worn itself in a bit. Just his thought, no testing behind it. He was paid to make aerospace stuff. Cars were crude by his standards. While we measure bearing clearances in hundreds of an inch...mil-spec shafts and bearings are measured in millionths! Amazing. And they pay dearly for it. The bike bearings I used were measured in the low-med ten-thousands of an inch. Loads were low, but friction reduction paramount. So in that use, it helped a lot. So I don't know it MotorKote is good or not. I saw what didn't happen to the Jeep engine 20+ yrs ago. It sure worked then. No reason for it to be different today.

That stuff looks nice and I would try it,but I cant find it on Summits website..anyone else find it?

A Royal Purple rep came into my friends garage. He had a devise something like the one in the demo. He showed us how much less weight it took to stop the machine using dino oil vs Royal Purple. We asked if he would try GM EOS (Engine Oil Supplement) but he said the EOS was to slippery and the weights he had were not enough to stop the machine if he put EOS on it.

I swear by the stuff but it is getting harder to find.

yes, it sells at Meijer! The Andersons General Store, and the Flying J (truck stop... for semi trucks.) I'm gonna get some tomorrow and give it a whirl.

Oh well, this sums it up, I'm sold :rolleyes:

Q: Why is MOTORKOTE Hyper Lubricant more expensive than some other additives?
A: Mostly because it’s better. It also doesn’t need to be added as often.

A lot of truckers use Motorkote in their trucks, supposed to be awesome stuff.

Expose the "special elixer" to true engine operating conditions of shear and heat then see how it holds up. If there were a potion that freed up significant amounts of frictional loss, Mobil, Shell, Penzoil would be all over it.

This is sort of funny, the guy "Motorcoat Dave", the inventor lives very close to me and you sure know he made his millions on the stuff before he sold the rights. I see him every year at certain car shows with his Ray Barton hemi powered 'Cuda, a car he purchased from Richard Petty...
When Dave bought the car he proceded to try and drive it home to Michigan, blew up the engine on the road and ended up sueing Petty for a chit ton of $$$............And won !

LUBRICITY TEST ,,,lol if that doesnt sound made up,,,,,thats the word for the month,,,,

they say summit carries it.

they say summit carries it.

I can't find it on their site anywhere.

Anyone notice during the test that when he is adding weights the part in contact with the spinning part doesn't move the slightest.

Its funny to see how people immediately critcize this stuff without any supporting facts. Kinda like how you were called a witch and burned if you were exceptionally different back in the day. As for real world engine conditions, how is this stuff supposed to be worse than other oils when it has already beaten them in an easier test? :screwup: Keep in mind, this isn't an oil replacement, you still use your Valvoline, Castrol, Amsoil, etc...
Don't burn the witch...

I phone the local Flying J truck stop & they carry the 16oz bottles for $12.99 Canadian(about $11.50 US).

For the price I'll buy a couple & try it in my car & work truck.

I can't find it on their site anywhere.

Anyone notice during the test that when he is adding weights the part in contact with the spinning part doesn't move the slightest.

I can't find it on the summit online catolog. According to the motorKote website summit sells it. ??

I can't find it on the summit online catolog. According to the motorKote website summit sells it. ??


Call them. If not, call the company. I'm sure they can ship it like Summit would.

Looks like a better deal if you buy it strait from the company, they are throwing in 2 bottles of fuel additive.

To anyone,
Obviously i'm not a salesman for this company, and I could care less if anyone uses it. I just thought i'd pass on the demo because i thought it was pretty cool and seemed to be a decent test. If I debate, its only with posts that automatically or immediately criticize it without any foundation. I like to give everything the benefit of the doubt. There was a post that said this stuff can't be true because the major oil companys would've already been all over it. The major oil companys didn't come up with Royal Purple and it is dyno proven to increase HP due to having a slicker substance than the major companys can put out....or want to put out. By the way, You think something like Quaker State goes into a billion dollar piece of military equiptment? There is better stuff in circulation than your local Autozone would lead you to believe.

LUBRICITY TEST ,,,lol if that doesnt sound made up,,,,,thats the word for the month,,,,


.......Did you make it through highschool?

Lubricity is a word....

That's your english lesson for the day kid.... and or oldman.

http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=UBB5&Number=263944&Searchpage=1&Main=263944&Words=motorkote&topic=&Search=true#Post263944

For years that test, Timkin test, has been used by every snake oil sales person in the world. Nothing new and/or interesting for those of us that have been in this hobby/business for the past 20 to 30 years. That test doesn't prove a thing as it relates to what may/does actually happen in an engine day to day. In fact based on the link above, as quoted by poster MoleKule who is an oil engineer it's not even a correct test for friction.

Now for you to say that an "infomercial" advertisement is proof, I have to LOL on that one. For proof what the kind owners of this company need to do is back to back this product over time with religious UOA (used oil analysis) tests showing some significant and measurable resuctions in wear metals both before and after the insertion of this magic elixer.

In conjunction they are free to post independent long term dyno data showing any measurable gains in power due to reduced friction.

As for Royal Purple basically any lighweight synthetic will show some gains on a dyno due to reduced friction, it's not unique to Royal Purple but simply part of their marketing.

As for the military, if a product meets their specs, it meets their specs. Once products meet spec then cost is the determining factor. If Quaker State meets the specs and is lower cost they will be the chosen supplier. That's how it works.

When you are around the business and people are trying to sell you something every day. So it's not ME that needs to supply any proof as to wether or not this crap works, it's the person selling it that needs to do his homework. More so than putting together $10.00 worth of metal and pushing down on a handle telling me they have found the next best thing to sliced bread.

http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=UBB5&Number=263944&Searchpage=1&Main=263944&Words=motorkote&topic=&Search=true#Post263944

For years that test, Timkin test, has been used by every snake oil sales person in the world. Nothing new and/or interesting for those of us that have been in this hobby/business for the past 20 to 30 years. That test doesn't prove a thing as it relates to what may/does actually happen in an engine day to day. In fact based on the link above, as quoted by poster MoleKule who is an oil engineer it's not even a correct test for friction.

Now for you to say that an "infomercial" advertisement is proof, I have to LOL on that one. For proof what the kind owners of this company need to do is back to back this product over time with religious UOA (used oil analysis) tests showing some significant and measurable resuctions in wear metals both before and after the insertion of this magic elixer.

In conjunction they are free to post independent long term dyno data showing any measurable gains in power due to reduced friction.

As for Royal Purple basically any lighweight synthetic will show some gains on a dyno due to reduced friction, it's not unique to Royal Purple but simply part of their marketing.

As for the military, if a product meets their specs, it meets their specs. Once products meet spec then cost is the determining factor. If Quaker State meets the specs and is lower cost they will be the chosen supplier. That's how it works.

When you are around the business and people are trying to sell you something every day. So it's not ME that needs to supply any proof as to wether or not this crap works, it's the person selling it that needs to do his homework. More so than putting together $10.00 worth of metal and pushing down on a handle telling me they have found the next best thing to sliced bread.

100% AGREED! Remember the rave(s) with Dura-Lube, Prolong, Motor Up, and Slick 50? When the FTC had it's independent scientists/test persons try these products to see if they worked as advertised....THEY ALL FAILED!! The FTC then yanked their licenses to advertise the stuff as miracle additives. I think the penalty Blue Coral-Slick 50 company had to pay was $50 million for false advertising. Then they tried to run the "Prolong" treated engine without an oil pan (just like on TV), the engine ran for less than 15 seconds before it seized. :rolleyes:

I read that ZMax (who intially lost their case) was the only one that had the scientist retest their product and actually were able to keep their license to advertise their product the same. It was found that the ingredient actually did bond/adhere to the surfaces being lubricated and resisted wear.

I don't know anything about the MotorKote yet, but I'll be sure to keep a check on the FTC to see whether it goes through them or not.

http://www.ftc.gov/os/2000/05/motorup.do.htm

Looks like Motor UP got it's pee pee slapped. Still searching for MotorKote.

so sorry rain down my boose,,,,calm down its ok,

I just posted on bob the oil guy and asked if anybody wanted to test this product. We'll just have to wait and see from an independent test.
I did use a snake oil from Liqui Moly called ceratec. Suppose to be some kind of ceramic type stuff. My dad used it in his trans and it did stop clunking when it downshifts. I just put some in my car and it did my old diesel did idle smoother and just run a little smoother in general. Engine sounds like it has less strain and quieter. No scientific experiement just my personal trial.

They have been waiting for 4 years for the motorkote sales guy to respond to the same request. The question has been asked there a few times with no response. Maybe this time will be different. Do a search and you'll se a few thread on it, including the one I posted which had the most information.

They have been waiting for 4 years for the motorkote sales guy to respond to the same request. The question has been asked there a few times with no response. Maybe this time will be different. Do a search and you'll se a few thread on it, including the one I posted which had the most information.

I saw that link you provided, I'm kane on that site.

I really never post on there as for one reason it NEVER saves my password. I do go there at least every week or so and look through all the oil analysis threads. We are a Shaeffers Dealer, and hard core fan, so I really should support the site more. Too bad about Stinky passing away.

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("I read that ZMax (who intially lost their case) was the only one that had the scientist retest their product and actually were able to keep their license to advertise their product the same. It was found that the ingredient actually did bond/adhere to the surfaces being lubricated and resisted wear.")

Huh... So they lost their case but it ended up that it DID actually work...so they won their case later.... wheres the Z max critics now?

QUOTE: ( "So it's not ME that needs to supply any proof as to wether or not this crap works, it's the person selling it that needs to do his homework." )

I just figured that if you claim it doesn't work then you can show me how you know that. They provided a test....doesn't really matter how much the metal costs. Pressure applied to a piece of spinning metal (even cheap metal) will eventually seize without lube. I saw metal seize with all of the other lubes. Now they are either flat out lying or it works.

Zmax was found to work... so it is possible that MotorKote just might work too...

they say summit carries it.
Summit also sells the Tornado.
TAM-KI-70
http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/norm/tam-ki-85_w_m.jpg That unit a small bottle of goo, some stickers and your taking on 'vettes. ;)

I think if there was any credibility to it, everyone would be using it. If I could pour a small bottle of stuff in my engine and Shazam, make more power, I'd be all over it.

Although having said that, I swapped Castrol for Mobil 1 and made 8hp more on a dyno.

I think if there was any credibility to it, everyone would be using it. If I could pour a small bottle of stuff in my engine and Shazam, make more power, I'd be all over it.

A lot of people ARE using it...tractor trailer drivers have been using it for a long time... thats why it can be found at every Flying J. But I'm not using it to get more power, my main reason is I want to cut down on friction (COLD STARTING)