View Full Version : big headers, small engine
Acal57 06-26-2005, 08:44:00 PM I've got a 350, w/ vortecs, XE268 and a few other goodies but I have a set of those 1 7/8" primary, 4" tube sidepipes. I realize that they are way too big for this street engine, but Im keeping them because of the cool factor. Is there anything I can do to help offset the header/exhaust size?
luda 06-26-2005, 08:55:00 PM really tiny exhaust?
i say sell 'em, get the right size headers, and get the cool factor by other means...such as an efficient horepower machine.
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badazz81z28 06-26-2005, 11:29:00 PM I agree...coolnest factor shouldnt take away from the performance potential, Get the right headers
GoldenOne7710 06-26-2005, 11:38:00 PM These guys are right. The coolness factor will fall on its face as well as your engine when you get on it. Anything less than 375ish ponies needs 1 5/8" tubes.
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onovakind67 06-26-2005, 11:40:00 PM I have a friend in Canada who gained about 100 hp in his 67 Vette 327 going from a set of oversized sidepipes with mufflers to an umderchassis small tube H-pipe setup.
Acal57 06-27-2005, 12:40:00 AM So what you're saying is I need to but one of them bill mitchell 454 small blocks? now to find the 10 grand...
infbp22 06-27-2005, 01:26:00 AM Kinda like trying to blow bubbles in your milk through a straw that's fatter than your head. Ain't gonna work.
luda 06-27-2005, 10:44:00 AM <font face="Arial,Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Acal57:
So what you're saying is I need to but one of them bill mitchell 454 small blocks? now to find the 10 grand...</font>
hehe, they probably won't bolt to a BBC if they fit a SBC
so i recommend either the Edelbrock 383 Stroker Limited edition (460hp/460 ft lbs.) OR the Edelbrock 440hp Fuel Injected Crate 350...hehe, i would've got the 383 legally for free if the guy who was getting it didn't go to jail (for something completely unrelated to the motor)
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RacerRick 06-27-2005, 01:25:00 PM You don't have too much pipe, just not enough engine!
67lemanster 06-27-2005, 01:34:00 PM <font face="Arial,Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Acal57:
So what you're saying is I need to but one of them bill mitchell 454 small blocks? now to find the 10 grand...</font>
what there saying is blah blah blah...
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y217/lemanster/Picture015.jpg
go here and check out there inserts. i dont disagree with onovakind but...depending on what inserts where in there what he is saying is 100% correct. however these guys have numbers posted and the loss with a good insert is not much. plus the insert is tunable. this is what i have.
http://www.spiralturbobaffles.com/
origianlly i had hooker inserts for a year. i took out and went open header/pipe and it was like gaining 100 hp. but it got old. so i did a lot of research and found these guys. over open header against there insert hp is roughly the same and only a little loss in torque. my car is very fast. http://www.nastyz28.com/ubb/smile.gif plus i think it is cool and that is what is most important.
1978LT 06-27-2005, 02:01:00 PM 1-5/8 is all ya need!!
73454 06-27-2005, 02:01:00 PM <font face="Arial,Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by luda:
hehe, they probably won't bolt to a BBC if they fit a SBC</font>
Bill Mitchell makes a 454 small block. http://www.nastyz28.com/ubb/smile.gif
http://www.theengineshop.com/feature0307.shtml
67lemanster 06-27-2005, 03:03:00 PM <font face="Arial,Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by 1978LT:
1-5/8 is all ya need!!</font>
but more girth gets you butter! http://www.nastyz28.com/ubb/wink.gif
dude1 06-29-2005, 01:34:00 PM I hate to butt in.....hey 67lemanster check my question in BS topic paging you. Want to know about the hot chicks around the car.
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