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El Guapo
01-03-2005, 05:00:00 PM
Did they make such an animal? If so, what was did it come in? Casting numbers? I'm looking to build a roller stroker and would like to start with a seasoned block like this.

Lowend
01-03-2005, 05:07:00 PM
I don't think there is such a thing.
I've never seen a 1-piece rear main block with 4-bolt from the factory

El Guapo
01-03-2005, 05:13:00 PM
I didn't think so. Darn -

mjoc
01-03-2005, 05:32:00 PM
I believe the ZZ430 was a roller with 4 bolts but i am not sure.

Dirt Reynolds
01-03-2005, 08:15:00 PM
Unless I'm mistaken, 4-bolt main 350 truck blocks with the one-piece rear main seal are roller blocks, however, during the late '80s they were fitted with flat-tappet cams unlike the 2-bolt roller block engines in passenger cars which got the hyd roller cams. The Corvette was the only passenger car with the one piece rear main seal, hyd roller cam, and 4-bolt mains.

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Damon
01-03-2005, 09:12:00 PM
I'm with Dirt on this one. Vettes and truck blocks were the only ones with 4-bolt mains and the truck blocks may not be fully machined for a roller cam bolt-in (lifter bores not machined flat on top to take the 'dog bones', lifter spider bosses may not be drilled/tapped and the block may not be drilled/tapped for the factory cam retaining plate). All that is fixable but would probably cost about the same as just having a 2-bolt block machined for some aftermarket (or factory?) 4-bolt caps.

rustbucket79
01-03-2005, 09:49:00 PM
Up in my neck of the woods around 20 percent of the new style blocks were 4 bolts and set up for roller cams. Your best bet is to look for a 350 out of a 1 ton van or pickup.

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[This message has been edited by rustbucket79 (edited January 03, 2005).]

Air_Adam
01-03-2005, 09:52:00 PM
Yes there is such a thing. Corvettes had them from '87-91, Camaros/Firebirds had them from '87-92, and almost all truck 350s from '87 and up had roller blocks. Not all trucks used roller lifters, but the blocks were cast and prepped to use roller lifters anyway.

I can't remember the casting numbers, but check out www.thirdgen.org (http://www.thirdgen.org) and it shouldn't take long to find them.

Air_Adam
01-03-2005, 09:53:00 PM
Sorry.... Camaros/Firebirds used the same block as the Corvette, but used 2-bolt mains. The Corvette had 4-bolt mains.

1978LT
01-03-2005, 10:34:00 PM
Penix would know. He is always into those engines. (Pssst hey man found me a roller block yet? http://www.nastyz28.com/ubb/wink.gif)

MEAN_SBC
01-04-2005, 01:58:00 AM
My 383 is a one piece rear main 4 bolt block....... So they have to have made one... It's a rather new block...

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MyBoTy
01-04-2005, 09:18:00 AM
Plenty of 'em around, just keep looking.

El Guapo
01-04-2005, 09:38:00 AM
OK, sweet. I'll start at the bone yards with the trucks and vans and see what I come up with.

Lowend
01-04-2005, 02:21:00 PM
I thought only LT1 vettes got 4-bolt mains.

Truth be told it does not really matter. A 2-bolt main is good to about 550HP and that is pretty much the limit for a street car

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Blue70SS
01-04-2005, 03:15:00 PM
To the best of my knowledge all L98 Corvettes through '91 (last year) came stock with 2-bolt main blocks.

If you really want to make it strong find one of these and have it machined for splayed 4-bolt main caps.

Dirt Reynolds
01-04-2005, 10:32:00 PM
The L98's used in the Corvette are not the same block as used in the L98 f-bodies.

F-body L98's are 2-bolt mains.

Corvette L98's are all 4-bolt mains.

All truck one-piece rear main 350 blocks are 4-bolt mains.

Not all truck one-piece rear main 350 blocks used roller cams, but they are roller blocks.

Hope that clarifies the issue.



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'Silver Bullet' 1977 Z-28 413" SB
11.73 @ 115.10 and dropping...
Old Vortec combo:
12.15 @ 110.52
1989 GTA L98
Daily driver

AJ_72
01-04-2005, 11:54:00 PM
I have one.

It's a 350, 4-bolt main, 1 pc rms out of a 1990 3/4 ton.

The last three in the cast # are 638.

Go to www.Mortec.com (http://www.Mortec.com) and look there. You'll see that not all 350 blocks that were 1 pc rms were set up for a roller cam. I don't remember the casting number, but I'm sure if you look there you'll find it.

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rustbucket79
01-05-2005, 03:41:00 AM
Wispers quietly to Dirt:
Many of the truck engines were 2 bolt blocks, esp. the half tons.

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Dirt Reynolds
01-05-2005, 12:18:00 PM
Okay, duly noted. http://www.nastyz28.com/ubb/cool.gif

No soup for you, Meester Rustbucket! http://www.nastyz28.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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'Silver Bullet' 1977 Z-28 413" SB
11.73 @ 115.10 and dropping...
Old Vortec combo:
12.15 @ 110.52
1989 GTA L98
Daily driver

rustbucket79
01-05-2005, 05:04:00 PM
Soup Nazi! http://www.nastyz28.com/ubb/smile.gif

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Dirt Reynolds
01-05-2005, 10:52:00 PM
http://www.nastyz28.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.nastyz28.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

http://www.nastyz28.com/ubb/cool.gif

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'Silver Bullet' 1977 Z-28 413" SB
11.73 @ 115.10 and dropping...
Old Vortec combo:
12.15 @ 110.52
1989 GTA L98
Daily driver