Well, im kinda going a different route with my build and the cam i had bought was for a blower application and i want a cam made for going n/a, heres a couple i was looking at :

http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=12878&prmenbr=361

http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=384479&prmenbr=361

*I'm primaryly looking for a fair/mild idle and 2000-6000 rpm range..nothing really lobey but a little would be nice, But still nothing thats gonna stall out out at every light and act like it is.

We have one of these cams in a 406 Elky that runs very well. Tremendous torque, nice idle, we use it as a dyno mule to test carbs, etc.

400 cubes? N/A? Don't be afraid of the bigger cam. It's not at all like shoving a cam into a little 350. The 400 will swallow a considerably bigger cam than an equivalent 350 and come back asking for more. If you're traction limited (moderate gearing, DRs, a few minor suspension upgrades) you're probably gonna want to knock down the low end torque a bit to help get you out of the hole clean.

I agree 400 swallows big cam!!!!!!
Stall at stop lights? what converter u runin Stock?

I wouldn't put less than 235 d 480 l 110 lca
in my grandmas car with a 400!

Your exactly in the ballpark for what you are looking for.

I've had pretty good luck with 'small' cams in my 406. My tow car has a 224° Comp cam, gets 18 mpg on the road and runs 11.70's in the quarter, 7.50 in the 1/8. When you want to cruise at 2000 rpm with the converter locked and not surge and buck, small is good.

I agree with Damon and mwilson, the 400s can take much more camshaft than an equivalently equipped 350. Our heavy 2nd gen Camaro's can really use the 400's huge torque curve, and a bigger cam helps with airflow through this size engine.

If you have a lighter car like onovakind with a 224 deg hyd roller cam, you can get away with less camshaft and still make good power.

My 1977 Z weighs 3725 with me in it, and thats with aluminum heads. The car was even heavier when I ran the Vortec heads. The mildest cam I ran was 234/244 hyd, now I run a 260 deg solid Comp 306S and I still have a ton of bottom and midrange torque. The bigger solid really helped with higher RPM pull at the track.

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'Silver Bullet' 1977 Z-28 413" SB
11.73 @ 115.10 and dropping...
Old Vortec combo:
12.15 @ 110.52
1989 GTA L98
Daily driver

Its not hard to run mid low 11's with a mild 400

If it was that easy, everybody would be doing it. I have a standing offer around the dyno shop for guys that want to race me with their 'street' cars. I will tow your car to LA with my car, we will race upon arrival. Immediately afterwards your car will tow my car to Sacto and we will repeat the race. I haven't met any 11-second guys that can even drive that far, let alone tow another car.

round here everyone with 406 set of camel humps, 3000 stall and 3.42's runs 11.5's
in any nova-camaro

Sure thing....Just like anyone around here with a 350 motor ported heads, victor intake , 850 holley , 11.2 comp.,4.10 gear w/spool, 3500 stall runs 10's.

Man sounds close to my set up im moving there run some tens!
You guys must have a downhill track?

I run an XE274 in my mild 406sbc and love it!

No downhill, but it is a full quarter mile....

Hey i have to apologize now i realize why my mph is low but my times are fast! we run to the 1000' foot mark here! 11.50 @ 97mph

If you're at the 1000' mark at 11.5 seconds and he's at the 1320' mark at 11.7 seconds, that's roughly a 280' margin of victory, about 15 car lengths.

Im just kidding of course we run "full" 1/4 mile here!

That would explain the 1/8 mile timeslip in the background of your webpage and the 1/8 mile time and speed shown in the Bragging Rights....

No the 4.10 gears which didnt help at all in the 1/8 mile,and were installed only because my 3.42's were making noise is why my timeslip only goes up to 1/8 mile, soon as i install my new for christmas 3.42's and hoosier DOT stickies ill post some 1/4 mile times. http://www.nastyz28.com/ubb/smile.gif
Hey we are killing this guys thread!
I dont know what the difference is but the average guy with a 400 runs 11's most 350's run 12-13, street cars only around here.

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It's hard to get a 1/4 mile timeslip from these guys...

Dunn-Benson Drag Strip
Buies Creek, NC
919-894-1662
IHRA, 1/8th mile

Coastal Plains Dragway!!
Man this place is Loaded with tracks!
have you seen the pic of me with the hoops hangin look at the backdrop "Kinston Dragway"
Fayetteville,Harrels,New Bern, But Coastal is my favorite!
This was the street class state inspection, exhaust, street tires, pump gas went
12.52 @ 111mph with 1.95 60' on some Lee Radials (old motor flat top piston, 3.42 gear)

http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/166577/fullsize/DSC00455.JPG



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onovakind67?

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<font face="Arial,Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Mwilson:
Whats it going in?
Might as well change heads and cam,
I pulled one ( a 400 SBC ) out of a suburban once changed cam and intake only with the factory dished pistons and open chamber heads it ran 8.50 1/8 mile in a 1988 camaro with 2800 stall and 3.42 gear</font>

I dont know what the difference is but the average guy with a 400 runs 11's

I'm still here. 8.50 in the eighth translates roughly to 13.30's in the quarter.

I didnt build the 400, that is strait out of a suburban with intake and cam thats it!
If i were building it it would have some decent heads, flat top pistons, headers
that motor that i was refering to was a 200,000 mile worn out low compression
And as i stated to him change heads and cam as i did not.

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onovakind 230 @ 50 is a mild cam in a 400 in my opinion?
220 @ 50 would give you a powerband suitable for towing in a 400 wouldnt it?
406, camel hump heads,performer RPM cam
2200 stall,3.08 gear my buddy Kevin
71 nova restored original body, interior
ran 7.34 1/8
11.40 1/4

230° @ .05" is a reasonably mild cam for a 406, I have a 'buddy' Lenny ( doesn't everyone have a buddy with a car that's a lot faster than theirs? ) who runs 10.50's in his 64 with this cam, 492 heads, 3.50 gears. I guess the average Nova around here runs 10.50's.

I think onovakinds cam would probrably give him what he's asking for but i dont think hes mentioned what type of car, converter, gear he has?

I think onovakinds cam would probrably give him what he's asking for but i dont think hes mentioned what type of car, converter, gear he has?

<font face="Arial,Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by onovakind67:
230° @ .05" is a reasonably mild cam for a 406, I have a 'buddy' Lenny ( doesn't everyone have a buddy with a car that's a lot faster than theirs? ) who runs 10.50's in his 64 with this cam, 492 heads, 3.50 gears. I guess the average Nova around here runs 10.50's.

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Converter is a B&M 11", you missed the rest...

I meant "Slo406" he never gave any info on car,converter,gear

<font face="Arial,Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by onovakind67:
Anyone around here with a 350 motor 4.10 gear 1200 stall runs 10's.</font>

Really?

You'd have to link that up for me - it's too easy to do this:

<font face="Arial,Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Mwilson:
round here everyone with 406 set of camel humps, 1200 stall and 3.08's runs 9.5's
in any nova-camaro

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<font face="Arial,Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by onovakind67:
If you cant run 10.80's at 120+ with a 305 ci and 75 shot and 3.08 gear you might as well find a new hobby!!!</font>

Guess I'll be looking for a new hobby!

<font face="Arial,Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Mwilson:
I meant "Slo406" he never gave any info on car,converter,gear</font>

Sorry i havent been on since i posted the thread..

91 trans am
3000 stall yank
3:73
3400 lbs w/me

How does the voodoo cam look..or could it stand to be a bit bigger?

<font face="Arial,Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by onovakind67:
Im runnin 2 dominators on a sheet metal intake on my 283 , 256 gear, stock converter in a dualie pick up but there seems to be a hesitation i just cant quite pinpoint? Oh and I've already checked timing its correct at -36 total - 22 initial.

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<font face="Arial,Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by onovakind67:
You'd have to link that up for me - it's too easy to do this:

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Ive always heard the camel humps are pretty big peces of shit...around here atleast

Probably depends on which end of the camel you are at....

I could have purchased nice heads for the cassh i have in this junk i just didn't realize how much i'd have in'em til it was too late!