View Full Version : It just keeps growing
12-31-2004, 10:26:00 AM
What started off as a few simple dress up mods to the engine has now turned into this major project. I am now down to putting on a timing cover and understand I have to pull the pan. I have heard there are soem tricks to this. Any thoughts
12-31-2004, 12:30:00 PM
PLEASE don't tell us your going to use one of those cheap, stamped tin, chromed timing gear covers!!!! If so the best advice I can offer is to throw it as far as you can and go back to a stock, painted cover. A good aluminum cover will seal nicely with just good gaskets and a dab of silicone in the corners of the pan. But those chrome 'dress up' covers are notorious for puking oil out everywhere no matter how much sealer you use.
If you 'must' use one,, take 100grit sand paper and rough up ALL the sealing surfaces, use a liquid sealer like 'HiTack' or any non hardening gasket sealer, put a good smear of silicone on BOTH sides of the gasket in the corners where the pan, block and timing cover all come together, DO NOT OVERTIGHTEN the bolts and hope for the best.
12-31-2004, 01:36:00 PM
I agree 100% with Marv. Had the dress up and took it off. It leaked too much. Of course I found the better covers after I spilled a barrel of oil on the ground. kidding, but did lose a bunch.
12-31-2004, 10:37:00 PM
Yes I am putting on a good Alum one. I also was thinking of a nice oil pan. Any suggestions please?
Also Marv will you please attend the Arizona 2nd Gen BBQ ?
01-01-2005, 01:33:00 AM
Moroso makes a nice oil pan, I have the 7 qrt kick out sump on my camaro. Summit has a kit that comes with the matching oil pump for around $170.
01-01-2005, 01:41:00 AM
<font face="Arial,Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by mybabyisthebitch:
Also Marv will you please attend the Arizona 2nd Gen BBQ ?</font>
Tell him the hot wings are being served by HOOTERS girls and he'll be there http://www.nastyz28.com/ubb/wink.gif
01-01-2005, 08:09:00 AM
If its a small block I have a nice pan for sale at the moment:
01-01-2005, 11:17:00 AM
Yes, stay away from the chrome B.S. Chromed surfaces are notorious for retaining heat, which you don't want to go out of your way to encourage.
01-01-2005, 11:28:00 AM
<font face="Arial,Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by rscamaro73:
Tell him the hot wings are being served by HOOTERS girls and he'll be there http://www.nastyz28.com/ubb/wink.gif</font>
Barbara I'll try, but I can't commit to anything. Between work, the problems were having with the LAST teenager in the house (actually I tossed his butt out yesterday), thrashing to get the car ready for the January 16th team race, and the wife not 'informing me' of what of what my plans are for the weekend... I never know WTF I'm doing.
What are you looking for in an oil pan. This is one place that dressup items are sorely lacking. There are no chrome or cast aluminum pans that I know of that are worth the effort to bolt them on. If your not headed to the track or planning on beating on the motor with regular frequency, you probably don't need anything trick, BUT driving in this summer heat the motor will appreciate any added capacity. There 'can be' some issues with the high capacity 'kick out' pans. Some headers will not clear the pan, some mini starters will not fit, and a deep sump can bring on ground clearance problems. For the most part, if you can find a 6QT 'truck pan' or an aftermarket clone of the early Z-28 pan it's probably as good as it gets for even the serious streeter.
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01-01-2005, 02:08:00 PM
<font face="Arial,Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Marv Davis:
having with the LAST teenager in the house (actually I tossed his butt out yesterday), </font>
LOL I can relate my good friend. My buddy at work has had all kinds of problems with "the last one to go out of the house".
01-02-2005, 02:38:00 AM
It always starts off as a small "just gonna do this" thing don't it? lol
My 88 camaro started off as a $1500 total replace carpet, seats, and clean up the engine.
It balloned into a $6500 tear it all down, rebuild engine, diff trans, upgrade rear, replace gauges, etc etc
01-02-2005, 10:22:00 PM
Thanks for all the advice. Hope this does not come across as speam but I have found a dealer here in Phoenix that deals with nothing but chrome, and mostly Chevy. He is called the Chrome Guy and has a shop. he does has some nice stuff including oil pans. I am looking at a time issue. Pull the pan, clean it up, paint it, let it dry, install. Or pull the pan, set it aside, install new pan. Did here I have to rough up the gasket seat area.
01-02-2005, 10:24:00 PM
Sorry I meant spam...oh god this will raise some eyebrows