View Full Version : Paint it at home?! Shoot-we paint it in the backyard!


wookie
05-18-2011, 09:46:03 PM
Shot today in base/clear OUTSIDE the booth as we had two cars in the booth being painted...Proof you can paint just about anywhere...This was after one shot of clear...It got another round to really look "Wet"..

http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l622/hammerhead1320/Nissan%20V8%20mini%20build/IMG_1523.jpg

http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l622/hammerhead1320/Nissan%20V8%20mini%20build/IMG_1524.jpg

BondoSpecial
05-18-2011, 09:50:13 PM
As long as you're not shooting my stuff outside you can do whatever you want! Depends on where you live too, out here you could most certainly not get away with that, with the pollen, bugs and whatever else is in the air.

72350RS
05-18-2011, 10:25:59 PM
Outstanding as always... :cool:


Redying interior parts, I was pretty proud how they turned out. Now I know I got nothing....:p

72350RS
05-18-2011, 10:28:00 PM
Wow- that was about the worst grammar I've ever used, and all in one line...

msgZ28
05-18-2011, 10:30:13 PM
Looks great! What color is that, and what car is it for, if you don't mind me asking. I got your DVD's, but haven't had a chance to watch them yet. I hope my stuff turns out as good. I think I'll need a lot of practice panels.

Chevrolaine
05-18-2011, 10:33:33 PM
Awesome.
I think I've painted more vehicles outside than inside over the years and the majority of the ones inside are in a barn. BC/CC has really taken the "hard" out of painting.

GoldenOne7710
05-18-2011, 10:48:19 PM
Well, it IS purple. Hard to screw that up any worse.....






















:pJ/K, Looks good. I'd love to have just 1/2 of your talent of painting.:bowtie:

ProStreet383
05-18-2011, 10:53:49 PM
My car was painted in a garage. ;) My cousin wet the floor and walls before he shot the paint. Couple coats of clear then wetsand then 2 more coats then wetsand and buff. That is him in front of the car in the last pic. He has done a ton of show cars and a few have been in the world of wheels.



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v426/prostreetcamaro/CamaroFrontAngle-new-1.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v426/prostreetcamaro/DSC00001.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v426/prostreetcamaro/DSC00025.jpg

wookie
05-18-2011, 10:56:16 PM
Andy, If I can do this anyone can!


The parts go to a '94 Nissan Hardbody pickup with a 350/350 combo in it.

The color is this: https://www.autobodytoolmart.com/kirker-black-diamond-lvb-sugar-plum-pearl-metallic-lvb-51375-p-17581.aspx

Laine this really is easy isn't it?! I LOVE base/clear...:bowtie:

ProStreet383
05-18-2011, 10:58:30 PM
Andy, If I can do this anyone can!


The parts go to a '94 Nissan Hardbody pickup with a 350/350 combo in it.

The color is this: https://www.autobodytoolmart.com/kirker-black-diamond-lvb-sugar-plum-pearl-metallic-lvb-51375-p-17581.aspx

Laine this really is easy isn't it?! I LOVE base/clear...:bowtie:


My cousin did run into a major issue with house of kolor. Had a car in which the clear peeled off like saran wrap before it ever left his shop. Called up HOK and they told him different instructions than what was listed on the label. He was PISSED

wookie
05-18-2011, 10:59:54 PM
Outstanding as always... :cool:


Redying interior parts, I was pretty proud how they turned out. Now I know I got nothing....:p

Wow- that was about the worst grammar I've ever used, and all in one line...


I got it...What does that say about me??????

wookie
05-18-2011, 11:00:47 PM
My cousin did run into a major issue with house of kolor. Had a car in which the clear peeled off like saran wrap before it ever left his shop. Called up HOK and they told him different instructions than what was listed on the label. He was PISSED

Valspar owns HOK now...Sounds like the wrong label was applied to the can!

vfw_1168
05-18-2011, 11:14:06 PM
i shot mine outside ... it not as hard as people make it out to be..... it is all in the body work and prep

http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd379/vfw_1168/DSCN0679.jpg

nagrom28
05-19-2011, 12:29:14 AM
prostreet383, i don't want to hi-jack the thread, but i really like the looks of your tire and wheel combination and how they fill the rear wheel wells. i was wondering if you'd mind sharing the tire and wheel sizes along with the back spacing. thanks!

wookie
05-19-2011, 01:04:53 AM
prostreet383, i don't want to hi-jack the thread, but i really like the looks of your tire and wheel combination and how they fill the rear wheel wells. i was wondering if you'd mind sharing the tire and wheel sizes along with the back spacing. thanks!

Ooooh I wanna guess! 28x10.5 on a 4.5 back space 8 inch wheel. Am I close?

wookie
05-19-2011, 01:06:31 AM
And I can't believe no one noticed the 2nd gen in the background!!

79ws6resto
05-19-2011, 01:12:10 AM
I saw it...mostly because of the wheels (funny how often I see that style rim used as rollers)

70sbudget
05-19-2011, 01:15:50 PM
And I can't believe no one noticed the 2nd gen in the background!!


and no one noticed the first gen in the rafters;)

tom3
05-19-2011, 01:30:28 PM
Had good luck in back yard over the years. Early in the morning while the sun is low, grass wet, no dust, no bugs, see really good. Plenty of fresh air. Hard to beat.

Blu-By-U 79Z
05-19-2011, 06:06:58 PM
As long as you're not shooting my stuff outside you can do whatever you want! Depends on where you live too, out here you could most certainly not get away with that, with the pollen, bugs and whatever else is in the air.

Atleast it didnt have that refrigerator door texture for a finish.;)

olstyle
05-19-2011, 06:26:16 PM
And I can't believe no one noticed the 2nd gen in the background!!
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I did, just figured it was waiting on parts....................

EDIT: Spelling lol

Zen28
05-19-2011, 06:41:10 PM
How about rolling on your paint on? Anybody try that?
I did mine and no one can tell. It was a lot of work (about 2 weeks of working on it at night) but it turned out really nice. Its always the same reaction of unbelief when I show the pictures to anyone.
Can't load a picture for some reason...you can see it here.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22310759@N08/5629615847/in/photostream

5spd540
05-20-2011, 07:43:49 AM
Around here people paint in their garage all the time

twozs
05-20-2011, 10:44:32 AM
what does the EPA have to say about this ?

daustin
05-20-2011, 11:00:30 AM
LOL The EPA can go pound sand IMO. They allow a "hobbiest" to paint 2 cars at home per year if i read their regulations correctly.
Don

twozs
05-20-2011, 11:09:28 AM
so i guess its eff the environment and full speed ahead . good job . just like the air conditioning business ( what i do ) the auto paint business should be watched too . at what point do you make the move from back yard auto body to professional . if i saw my car being painted in someones back yard , the price i would pay would reflect that . there is one thing about painting your own car to save money , but charging a costumer for a back yard paint job is another . get a shop and go legitimate if your that busy

Cardinal
05-20-2011, 11:17:09 AM
Painting outside here in upstate NY is a roll of the dice. Bugs, pollen, dust in the air, chemicals in the air, etc.

When they were painting JD's '83 S10 outside, they were finishing with the last color coat when a moth landed on the edge of the hood! They got the SOB out of the paint right away before it could flop around in the paint. IF you look very closely you can see the area where he landed is lighter.

wookie
05-20-2011, 12:46:00 PM
so i guess its eff the environment and full speed ahead . good job . just like the air conditioning business ( what i do ) the auto paint business should be watched too . at what point do you make the move from back yard auto body to professional . if i saw my car being painted in someones back yard , the price i would pay would reflect that . there is one thing about painting your own car to save money , but charging a costumer for a back yard paint job is another . get a shop and go legitimate if your that busy

If this statement is directed at me, I have had 3 (Three) EPA compliant shops in 20 years. I was painting these parts at the current shop I rent space at just outside the booth because the booth had two cars being painted in it at the same time by the shop owner. I am doing this Nissan FOR FREE for a friend. I sold the last shop a year ago due to health issues suffered from my service to our country..

The amount of damage I do to the atmosphere playing with car parts is minuscule compared to what a city bus does in one hour. I have video of a local shop across from mine belching fumes from its booth stack and it is in compliance.

I have been doing this over a quarter century, and know the regulations inside and out. I posted a couple pictures of parts I painted outdoors to show it can be done, to help assure the home hobby person that it is possible. I do not paint cars outdoors for a living. Let's get that straight. I am a retired USAF combat controller.


The auto body business is watched very closely. HVLP guns are a result of the EPA. Waterborne clears now in place are the same.

Look up small waste generator, If I paint one car a year out in the open, I am a small waste generator. The EPA is fine with what I do, so where is the problem? If YOU are allowed to paint two cars a year at your home, then what is the problem with me painting a hood and two doors????

BondoSpecial
05-20-2011, 01:01:50 PM
Atleast it didnt have that refrigerator door texture for a finish.

Blow me. I specifically stated that was to make the car one color not something I considered a real paint job. THat car went to the dump about 2 months later. I have paint guns but that car was not worth having to clean them or waste thinner on.

77nomad
05-20-2011, 01:14:48 PM
Hmm. I could give a rip about the EPA. I hear we're gonna start having to start putting our heavier car parts on the bottom shelf to help conserve gravity soon.

arick793
05-20-2011, 02:22:21 PM
Painting outside here in upstate NY is a roll of the dice. Bugs, pollen, dust in the air, chemicals in the air, etc.

When they were painting JD's '83 S10 outside, they were finishing with the last color coat when a moth landed on the edge of the hood! They got the SOB out of the paint right away before it could flop around in the paint. IF you look very closely you can see the area where he landed is lighter.


I think the mosquitoes I encased in clear look pretty cool ;)

jthomas
05-20-2011, 02:42:48 PM
I think the mosquitoes I encased in clear look pretty cool ;)

Ha ha...tell me about it. 1000 years from now someone will find our cars with this in the clearcoat, just like the ancient amber wasp they found :D

http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af346/jthomas646/amber-africa-parasite-wasp_18187_600x450.jpg

Skaal-tel 79
05-20-2011, 04:44:50 PM
Hmm. I could give a rip about the EPA. I hear we're gonna start having to start putting our heavier car parts on the bottom shelf to help conserve gravity soon.

I love it.

Blu-By-U 79Z
05-20-2011, 06:38:02 PM
Blow me. I specifically stated that was to make the car one color not something I considered a real paint job. THat car went to the dump about 2 months later. I have paint guns but that car was not worth having to clean them or waste thinner on.
No thanks i got standards ;):cool:

BTTB71SS
05-20-2011, 07:01:45 PM
Mark those panels look good man.... I am impressed ;)

Never worry what the peanut gallery says if you know I what mean ;)

We all have to sometimes paint outdoors and as far as I am concerned it is no worse than anyone driving their car .... Scr3w 'em

Blu-By-U 79Z
05-20-2011, 07:02:43 PM
Mark those panels look good man.... I am impressed ;)

Never worry what the peanut gallery says if you know I what mean ;)

We all have to sometimes paint outdoors and as far as I am concerned it is no worse than anyone driving their car .... Scr3w 'em
^^^^^^ +1 :bowtie:

BTTB71SS
05-20-2011, 07:06:05 PM
^^^^^^ +1 :bowtie:

Thanks Blu...


plus has anyone seen his DVD about Painting At Home... Good information in there just so you know:D

hogg
05-20-2011, 07:07:42 PM
Maney cares panted out side over the years> not all perfet, best luck is to have it ready for the first lite of next day ,the air is usualy still,and cleaner and maybe the due has fallen and no dust or bugs.as soon as it 's painted get iit inside, heat from sun could be to much ,to fast.maybe

norwood
05-20-2011, 10:06:25 PM
Painted in my garage, one of about 20 or so over the years.

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n250/crabs24/1970ppg2213.jpg

olstyle
05-20-2011, 10:12:59 PM
Painted in my garage, one of about 20 or so over the years.

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n250/crabs24/1970ppg2213.jpg
Very nice!

Almost looks like a pic from Morris.

norwood
05-20-2011, 10:16:56 PM
Thank You. Tipp City, Ohio. 2010 Trans Am Nats.

southview
05-20-2011, 10:17:21 PM
Norwood,that paint looks like S#$!.I will come and take it off your hands so u don't embarass yourself driving that around.That's what friends do.I'll even give u $500 for the pain and suffering.What do u think.Can i come and get it.I am only helping u out.Okay $1000 then.PLEASE:p

5spd540
05-20-2011, 10:21:18 PM
what does the EPA have to say about this ?
EPA ha around here

norwood
05-20-2011, 10:23:38 PM
Norwood,that paint looks like S#$!.I will come and take it off your hands so u don't embarass yourself driving that around.That's what friends do.I'll even give u $500 for the pain and suffering.What do u think.Can i come and get it.I am only helping u out.Okay $1000 then.PLEASE:p


I this econamy I just can't afford to take a loss on this one. I paid $2,000 for it back in 75. NO KIDDING...

krabben1
05-20-2011, 10:53:57 PM
Norwood,that paint looks like S#$!.I will come and take it off your hands so u don't embarass yourself driving that around.That's what friends do.I'll even give u $500 for the pain and suffering.What do u think.Can i come and get it.I am only helping u out.Okay $1000 then.PLEASE:p
Friends helping friends,thats what nasty's all about,lol.

70-SS/RS-L78
05-21-2011, 08:09:20 PM
If I did that they would lead me away in handcuffs....

Rich Schmidt
05-21-2011, 10:25:10 PM
Painted in my garage AND in my driveway!!. Yup my garage is too small tpo paint a whole car in(Actually it is almost too small to fit the car in and close the door at all). I painted the back end of the car,then rolled it back about 3 feet and sprayed the doors,then rolled it back 5 more feet and sprayed the nose. I did each section soup to nuts and used masking paper tucked in the seams to aviod overspray as I moved along. It is single stage solid color BASF. Aside from needing to wet sand the heck out of it,it turned out better then the half a dozen or so other paint jobs I have put on this car over the years,but that was mostly because I wasnt drunk to the gills when I did it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/racer7391/MapleGrove2-1.jpg

Even the jams look great. It seems like urethane is the key,even if it isnt BC/CC. Laquer rocks for the DIY,but isnt as durable as urethane. You cant sand enamel the next day like you can the other 2. I would probably be shooting a lot of laquer if it were still readily available. Anything that can be cut and buffed a few hours after it goes on is perfect for the DIY.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/racer7391/birdinterior.jpg

Freshly cut and buffed. This pic was taken minutes after I pulled all the paper off.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/racer7391/Orangebird001.jpg

I cant call it a "back yard" job. More like a "front yard" one.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/racer7391/done008.jpg

Rich Schmidt
05-21-2011, 10:47:15 PM
The same car painted in a garage with BASF BC/CC. By the time this pic was taken the paint had a lot of miles of smiles and racing battlescars put on it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/racer7391/carpics009.jpg

10 year old laquer job done back in 1984,and I threw the fiberglass fenders on and color matched them with rattle cans. And a glimpes of the way the NYC skyline should look.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/racer7391/newredbird.jpg

Matt's 73 z
05-22-2011, 01:59:04 AM
If I did that they would lead me away in handcuffs....

+ 1000. I won't even spray primer outside of the booth in my shop.

All the people saying "screw the EPA" would be singing a different tune if they showed up at their door handing out fines.

The days of spraying outside or even in your garage will be coming to an end soon. It won't long before you have to be EPA certified just to buy automotive paint.

Disturbed One
05-22-2011, 02:43:27 AM
only if thats what you do ... do you pay taxes on that paint job ? i know i pay a tax to fund this country ( what ever one thinks of it ) through my taxable income ? it is a taxable income right ? enough, all right ! ... dont advertise a crime

Honestly... reading what your saying in this thread and trying to figure out which part of the field your coming from is very difficult. This statement doesn't make any sense at all and instead of being a dick and cluttering up the threads. Go find something else to do!

Wookie: That color looks awesome and the work looks amazing as usual! Your paint at home DVD's are great stuff btw!!

twozs
05-22-2011, 02:51:02 AM
Honestly... reading what your saying in this thread and trying to figure out which part of the field your coming from is very difficult. This statement doesn't make any sense at all and instead of being a dick and cluttering up the threads. Go find something else to do!

Wookie: That color looks awesome and the work looks amazing as usual! Your paint at home DVD's are great stuff btw!!
i guess thats why you call yourself " disturbed one " . what do you want from me , it my opinion , douche ! it doesn't make any sense ? why don't you go pay everyones taxes who decides is a side job and its a non taxable income . when did you last file income tax ????

POS71RS
05-22-2011, 03:19:59 AM
Enough. Name calling is never tolerated here.