This isn't much, but it may be just the thing for some people.

If you find yourself a dual voice coil sub with 2 ohms on each coil, wire it in parallel, you'll have 100 watts of output in a very small package.

Keep in mind, 100 watts isn't much for a sub unless it's mounted in the rear package tray, or if you don't really want a lot of "punch". But for less than $10 (Less than $16 shipped) I don't think you can really ask for much.

http://www.amazon.com/Kicker-Audio-Stereo-Input-Housing/dp/B004EBLX8E

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/311AqdB4MYL._SL500_AA300_.jpg (http://www.amazon.com/Kicker-Audio-Stereo-Input-Housing/dp/B004EBLX8E)

Here's a great sub for cheap that would work well on the package tray. Only requires a .5 cu/ft box and is less than $50 shipped.

http://www.amazon.com/Db-Drive-Spw18-3d2-Subwoofer-Quality/dp/B003PP0O26

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41VsB7r1MwL._SL500_AA300_.jpg (http://www.amazon.com/Db-Drive-Spw18-3d2-Subwoofer-Quality/dp/B003PP0O26)

How would that work w/the cheap Kenwood sub from 6th Ave?

that might be perfect in my regular cab truck

How would that work w/the cheap Kenwood sub from 6th Ave?
It's funny you mention that because I thought of that setup myself. It would probably not work well.

Here's why...

That sub is a 4 ohm sub, meaning its rated resistance is measured at 4 ohms. This amp is rated at 100 watts @ 1 ohm of resistance. I'd suspect it would put out less than 50 watts @ 4 ohms.

The lower the resistance, the more power an amplifier is able to put out. Too much resistance and the amp will hardly be able to put out enough power to move the subwoofer. If the subwoofer doesn't move much, neither do the sound waves.

A smaller and lighter sub, like an 8" or at most, a 10", would be about all that amp would be able to move at 100 watts and put out decent bass. Less if the amp was limited to putting out less wattage (like 50 watts). With the desire to get the sub to move more air (be it a larger sub or a sub with more resistance), one may be tempted to pump up the bass, using the bass knob, or turn up the overall volume, and cause distortion. Distortion is the #1 killer of speakers.

Car audio is similar to engine building and suspension tuning; Everything has to be matched to work well together in order to work properly.

I would ask these questions:

1. Is that amp will be stable @ 1ohm? I think it will burn up and die at that impedance. Most amps do.

2. How efficient is the sub? Can it reach full excursion with 50 watts?

3. Can you put it in a bigger box or is it solely for small enclosures? Biger box, easier to reach full excursion with less wattage input.

That would be an inexpensive way to add some bump to your trunk. Literally.

I would ask these questions:

1. Is that amp will be stable @ 1ohm? I think it will burn up and die at that impedance. Most amps do.
It's rated @ 1 ohm by Kicker. From what I understand by doing more research, the amp was originally used for a factory amp in a certain production car (I don't know which one) to two 8", 2 ohm subs. I can't remember where I read that, though, so the point is moot.

2. How efficient is the sub? Can it reach full excursion with 50 watts?
Which sub are you asking about. There have been two subs discussed in this thread.

3. Can you put it in a bigger box or is it solely for small enclosures? Biger box, easier to reach full excursion with less wattage input.
Again, which sub are you asking about?

That would be an inexpensive way to add some bump to your trunk. Literally.


True, regardless of which sub would be used.

Just remember, when comparing the two subs discussed in this thread, I was making a mere suggestion on a sub to use. I've read great reviews about the DB Drive subs, but that's sometimes useless. Reviews are only in the eye of the beholder. To some people, any sub sounds better than no sub. To others, the sub they bought sounds better than any other sub in the world. ;)

I only recommended the DB Drive sub because

1.) It's small. Very easy to install in the "popular on this site" rear package tray.

2.) It's relatively inexpensive.

3.) Wired properly, it will yield a 1 ohm load for that amp to work at its peak.

4.) As mentioned, I read decent reviews on it.

I've had experience with Kenwood subs, but not that particular sub. I'm anxious to hear what the few people here, who purchased one from the other thread, have to say about it.

But then again, for $38, I think we're going to get the "it's the best sub in the world" reviews. :innocent:

The sub I was thinking about was the DB drive coupled to the Kicker amp in post #1. Just because subs designed for small enclosures usually are inefficient. Put it in a bigger box though, and it may really move on the 100W amp.

It amazes me how cheap electronics are these days. With careful spending and a little ingenuity, you can have some great sound for cheap.

I tinker with my truck stereo alot. Sometimes things get pretty crazy with it and I wind up redoing it. Nothing competition level or anything but, it does keep growing. Sorry if I seemed like I was being a know-it-all-turd.;)

The sub I was thinking about was the DB drive coupled to the Kicker amp in post #1. Just because subs designed for small enclosures usually are inefficient. Put it in a bigger box though, and it may really move on the 100W amp.Here are the specs on the DB Drive sub. I searched their site, but couldn't find any specifics. Must be last years model. ;)

http://www.audiosavings.com/products/8-Inch-Car-Subwoofer/NEW-DB-DRIVE-SPW8.3D2-8-300-WATT-DVC-CAR-SUBWOOFER-SUB/SPW8.3D2.aspx

Recommended sealed encloser size is 0.5 - 0.8 cu/ft. (.5 being optimum)

Recommended ported enclosure is 0.7 - 1.0 Cubic Feet (0.8 optimum)

Gotta remember, this is an 8" sub. A big enclosure will make it sound sloppy. ;)

The efficiency of this sub is 84dB @1w/1m. The Kenwood is 86dB @1w/1m

I'd venture to say those 2dB will be offset by the higher wattage the amp is able to put out with a 1 ohm load using the DB Drive opposed to a 4 ohm load from the Kenwood.

It amazes me how cheap electronics are these days. With careful spending and a little ingenuity, you can have some great sound for cheap.
I agree. Back in 1991 I paid just shy of $400 for a RF Punch 100 (actually puts out ~400 watts).

Now, for $400 I could get a Power Series 1,000 (actually puts out 1200-1300 watts)
http://www.amazon.com/Rockford-Fosgate-T1000-1bdcp-Amplifier-Delivering/dp/B003TURQTG/ref=sr_1_4?s=car&ie=UTF8&qid=1294701471&sr=1-4

I tinker with my truck stereo alot. Sometimes things get pretty crazy with it and I wind up redoing it. Nothing competition level or anything but, it does keep growing. Sorry if I seemed like I was being a know-it-all-turd.;)
You didn't seem that way at all. You have valid points. I just wasn't sure which sub you were referring to, that's all. ;)

BTW...

I found out this amp was used as an dealer add-on accessory in the Dodge Charger. It's a plug and play setup. The sub used is, indeed, a Kicker dual 2 ohm sub (10" IIRC).

I don't remember if I mentioned it, but I ordered 2 of them. They came in the other day and I was able to hunt down the part number of the plug that was used on the amp.

BTW...

I found out this amp was used as an dealer add-on accessory in the Dodge Charger. It's a plug and play setup. The sub used is, indeed, a Kicker dual 2 ohm sub (10" IIRC).

I don't remember if I mentioned it, but I ordered 2 of them. They came in the other day and I was able to hunt down the part number of the plug that was used on the amp.

That looks like a awesome deal either way, they are showing up on eBay now four times that price......looks like people are flipping them to make a buck.

here's another cheapie with a one channel output, thought about it for my Marauder but I think the impedance of my factory sub is either 4 or 8 ohms...

http://www.amazon.com/Kicker-100W-Audio-Mono-Input/dp/B004EBLX98/ref=pd_sim_sbs_e_1

here's another cheapie with a one channel output, thought about it for my Marauder but I think the impedance of my factory sub is either 4 or 8 ohms...

http://www.amazon.com/Kicker-100W-Audio-Mono-Input/dp/B004EBLX98/ref=pd_sim_sbs_e_1
I saw that, too.

You know what's puzzling? That's the same amp, though the $10 one comes with the Kicker cover. :confused:

As far as your sub in you Marauder, put an ohm meter on that bad boy and find out.

That looks like a awesome deal either way, they are showing up on eBay now four times that price......looks like people are flipping them to make a buck.

Yeah. I'd thought about doing that, but I have a conscious. LOL

Seriously, I'd rather see people like us (Camaro people ;)) make good use out of them for OUR benefit.

I don't see how it would matter, anyway. After all the fees eBay charges, it'd be hard to make $10 on them. After all, it's not like you can say "Brand new, In Box", as they don't come with a box. At least mine didn't. They came in a cardboard contraption to keep them separated/organized, like every other bulk item does.