View Full Version : What Mini Starter is best?


JaredMcQueer
11-01-2010, 08:42:16 PM
I am looking for a mini starter for my 454. I found a few that look pretty good but what one out of these would work best??
Thank you Jared

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/350-383-BBC-CHEVY-EXTREME-STARTER-3HP-MINI-GEAR-RACING-/220687894734?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item33620608ce
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SBC-BBC-CHEVY-3-HP-High-Torque-Mini-Starter-168-tooth-/360314741459?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item53e46ea2d3
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SBC-BBC-CHEVY-STAGGERED-BOLT-3HP-3-HP-MINI-STARTER-/400168222725?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5d2be28005

Rene Melten
11-01-2010, 08:50:34 PM
Looks like the first one has the option that can be rotated for best fit, for headers etc. Have a similar one, nice feature.

sooner
11-01-2010, 08:53:07 PM
As long as its not ultra high compression, a stock gear reduction starter off of a 1998 vortec 350 will spin the crap out of it and last a long time. Just my .02

JaredMcQueer
11-01-2010, 09:13:26 PM
As long as its not ultra high compression, a stock gear reduction starter off of a 1998 vortec 350 will spin the crap out of it and last a long time. Just my .02
But i want to have more space for the headers so i was going with a smaller one.

JaredMcQueer
11-01-2010, 09:14:07 PM
Looks like the first one has the option that can be rotated for best fit, for headers etc. Have a similar one, nice feature.
ok thanx. I think it shud be worth the money

5spd540
11-01-2010, 09:16:55 PM
A large starter will fit with headers on

scrapmetal
11-01-2010, 09:19:10 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/350-383-BBC-CHEVY-EXTREME-STARTER-3HP-MINI-GEAR-RACING-/220687894734?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item33620608ce

5spd540
11-01-2010, 09:22:15 PM
Man that is cheap.

sooner
11-01-2010, 09:22:58 PM
But i want to have more space for the headers so i was going with a smaller one.

Its a factory mini starter.

5spd540
11-01-2010, 09:34:21 PM
What bolt pattern do you have on your starter.

JaredMcQueer
11-01-2010, 09:35:40 PM
What bolt pattern do you have on your starter.
not sure. Have to look tomorow. came from a 77 truck

JaredMcQueer
11-01-2010, 09:36:12 PM
Its a factory mini starter.
Ill have to look

Rene Melten
11-01-2010, 09:40:30 PM
Its a factory mini starter. Can attest to this little starter as well. Since I do own a 1998 GMC SLT , the starter is still the original, as is the majority of the truck.

Damon
11-01-2010, 10:39:29 PM
The main downside to the little mini-starters is if you have problems with the engine kicking back against it (lots of initial timing advance). The planetary gears in them (all factory startyers, some aftermarket designs) won't take that kind of abuse for long before they let go. Also, if your engine is hard to start and reqires long periods of cranking to fire it up- they can't handle the heat from long cranking periods very well and will fry if you do that too often. (Remember they were designed for EFI engines that usually fire almost immediately).

Other than thos two shortcomings I don't know why you would ever run a full sized starter any more.

JaredMcQueer
11-01-2010, 10:47:28 PM
The main downside to the little mini-starters is if you have problems with the engine kicking back against it (lots of initial timing advance). The planetary gears in them (all factory startyers, some aftermarket designs) won't take that kind of abuse for long before they let go. Also, if your engine is hard to start and reqires long periods of cranking to fire it up- they can't handle the heat from long cranking periods very well and will fry if you do that too often. (Remember they were designed for EFI engines that usually fire almost immediately).

Other than thos two shortcomings I don't know why you would ever run a full sized starter any more.
So what starter would you run then?

Louich
11-02-2010, 01:10:35 AM
ive had very good luck with cvr starters. some of the cheapies , not so much...its not so nice sitting in the staging lanes with a new starter and it goes click.

muscl car
11-02-2010, 02:32:45 AM
look at any race car and you'll find a tilton starter that's says alot as those motors are 15.1:1 comp or higher with locked out timing and they start easily

5spd540
11-02-2010, 04:57:52 AM
The main downside to the little mini-starters is if you have problems with the engine kicking back against it (lots of initial timing advance). The planetary gears in them (all factory startyers, some aftermarket designs) won't take that kind of abuse for long before they let go. Also, if your engine is hard to start and reqires long periods of cranking to fire it up- they can't handle the heat from long cranking periods very well and will fry if you do that too often. (Remember they were designed for EFI engines that usually fire almost immediately).

Other than thos two shortcomings I don't know why you would ever run a full sized starter any more.
This is correct they cant stand the heat from cranking too long.

89rodknocker
11-03-2010, 12:32:14 AM
Do not and i mean do not buy the second one from dbelectrical. I have one from them and they suck. Sent it in for repair and came back wit the same issue. Buy one of the other ones. I have a stock replaceement from a 5.7l 1500 truck and it works great.

JaredMcQueer
11-03-2010, 01:05:25 AM
Do not and i mean do not buy the second one from dbelectrical. I have one from them and they suck. Sent it in for repair and came back wit the same issue. Buy one of the other ones. I have a stock replaceement from a 5.7l 1500 truck and it works great.
Wow that sucks. Yep wont be getting that one haha

Rene Melten
11-03-2010, 01:09:28 AM
If you can get a Tilton mini starter for $50, buy it.

JaredMcQueer
11-03-2010, 01:27:04 AM
I hink that is what i am going to go with. they have a good record behind them and most you guys have ecommended them so im taking your words.

hucks 70
11-03-2010, 02:18:14 PM
that was my problem,5 years 9 starters,now i put a switch inline with the wire for the dizzy,i get it cranking and then hit the switch, works fine ,fires right up no kick back









The main downside to the little mini-starters is if you have problems with the engine kicking back against it (lots of initial timing advance). The planetary gears in them (all factory startyers, some aftermarket designs) won't take that kind of abuse for long before they let go. Also, if your engine is hard to start and reqires long periods of cranking to fire it up- they can't handle the heat from long cranking periods very well and will fry if you do that too often. (Remember they were designed for EFI engines that usually fire almost immediately).

Other than thos two shortcomings I don't know why you would ever run a full sized starter any more.

hucks 70
11-28-2010, 01:13:05 PM
well spoke to soon,another starter ,kick back problem. now im going to a good mini.

theflash
11-28-2010, 06:36:59 PM
As long as its not ultra high compression, a stock gear reduction starter off of a 1998 vortec 350 will spin the crap out of it and last a long time. Just my .02

Do you have a part number?

Rene Melten
11-28-2010, 07:48:12 PM
If you scroll down to the 5.7L replacement on this site it gives the OE part #'s as well. http://www.racepages.com/products/?D=1998+gmc+starter&Nty=1&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntk=Main&N=790+9873&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntt=1998+gmc+starter

REARSPROCKET
11-30-2010, 09:07:22 AM
I run the GM 9000852 http://www.summitracing.com/parts/NAL-9000852/ which comes on the ZZ502 502 but it has been superseded by this one--> http://www.summitracing.com/parts/NAL-12606096/ :bowtie:

theflash
11-30-2010, 01:05:25 PM
I heard the Hitachi is a good one, anyone have an opinion on those?

vegas1974z28
11-30-2010, 03:50:44 PM
its not so nice sitting in the staging lanes with a new starter and it goes click.

Been there.........with a MSD starter

Louich
12-01-2010, 02:51:40 PM
I heard the Hitachi is a good one, anyone have an opinion on those?

i have sold about 5 of them. So far so good. There are different power ratings though.