reinhardt79
09-24-2009, 09:33:00 PM
i want a 20 amp circuit in the garage for my 110 welder. it is roughly 50-75 feet from the main panel. a sub panel is in the future, but not now. i think i need 12 gauge wire and a 20 amp outlet, and a 20 amp breaker. is this too far away? thanks again.
Big-Dave
09-24-2009, 10:11:00 PM
12/2 wire will be fine.In home construction runs of 50ft. and more are common, and often with more than one receptacle in line. A dedicated 20 amp circuit is commonly used for refrigeration, hot water heaters,boilers,ect.
anesthes
09-30-2009, 09:17:32 AM
i want a 20 amp circuit in the garage for my 110 welder. it is roughly 50-75 feet from the main panel. a sub panel is in the future, but not now. i think i need 12 gauge wire and a 20 amp outlet, and a 20 amp breaker. is this too far away? thanks again.
Why not just pull some 6/3 and put a subpanel in? Sub panels are around $20 for a 6 breaker version, which is rated for 100 amp. You could pull 4/3 wire and use the full 100amp, or breaker it at 60 with the 6/3. (assuming 90c wire, if other wire is used ampicity is lower)
-- Joe
reinhardt79
09-30-2009, 07:42:09 PM
you say 6/3 is enough for the distance and for 60 amps? my main panel is a 150 amp box. i will have to get a permit to run a sub panel tho. do i need a permit for a single circuit addition? the welder i have is 110 and says it draws 24 amps. what breaker size, wire size do i need for this?
anesthes
09-30-2009, 09:12:36 PM
you say 6/3 is enough for the distance and for 60 amps? my main panel is a 150 amp box. i will have to get a permit to run a sub panel tho. do i need a permit for a single circuit addition? the welder i have is 110 and says it draws 24 amps. what breaker size, wire size do i need for this?
A 110 welder that draws 24 amps? Must use an L5 plug huh? (30A, 125 volt) ? For that you would need to run 10 awg wire.
Usually, you need a permit to do anything.
6/3 will do 60 amps if it's a 75c or 90c wire. (not romex/nm).
http://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=3742&pictureid=52711
As you can see from the table, the ampicity depends on the type of wire/jacketing.
-- Joe
reinhardt79
10-02-2009, 10:51:39 PM
i am confused on the amp draw of this welder. it says 24 amps, but it is a standard plug. i have run this welder on a 20 amp circuit and never tripped the breaker.
my question is to all you sparkys out there now. how much would it cost me to have a electrician come in and add a sub panel?
a550550
10-02-2009, 11:00:02 PM
In Minnesota, you need a permit to get a permit!
But you can do your own wiring for personal use with a permit. I wouldn't hire an electrician for that. But I WOULD run a sub panel, at least 60A.
I have had real good luck with the electrical dept at Home Depot. The guys there know the codes, whether you need to run in Conduit, how many wires you can run in what size conduit, what size wire you need, what breakers you need for code in your county.
The chart that Anethses attached is a good resource. Just don't use Romex for you 60A line, or you have to step up to 4GA
Check them out