View Full Version : Might be in over my head.


moms1978
08-24-2009, 06:04:03 PM
My garage is leaning.
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll169/heather22584/Garage/emilyspartyandgarage052.jpg


Damn wind storm!

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll169/heather22584/Garage/emilyspartyandgarage053.jpg

The garage is leaning toward the side the carport is on. If you can see from the pics of the lump in the roof only half of it is leaning. Half of the garage has a footer other half dosen't.

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll169/heather22584/Garage/emilyspartyandgarage062.jpg

The half that has a footer was built in 43, the other half was later added on. Don't know when, its built around the concrete pad, the half thats leaning that is.

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll169/heather22584/Garage/emilyspartyandgarage061.jpg

Im pretty sure the carport is what is making it lean. Heres how its attached.

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll169/heather22584/Garage/emilyspartyandgarage058.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll169/heather22584/Garage/emilyspartyandgarage057.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll169/heather22584/Garage/emilyspartyandgarage056.jpg

Not sure if I'm worried about pushing it back upright. Im single/ 24 and having a ghetto garage is the best I can do right now. I want to strengthen it and rebuild the carport.

My plan is to dig post holes and concrete in some 4x6 and attach them to every lean to. Use the same bolt holes thats already in them.
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll169/heather22584/Garage/emilyspartyandgarage074.jpg
To the right of bucket you can see one post hole. Id concrete the 4x6 3ft deep then bolt them to every lean to board coming off the roof. Then knock down the wall in between the carport and garage. Then when I rebuild the carport part Id attach it to the new 4x6's and not the lean to boards coming off the roof. Id only knock out the wall of the garage where their is no concrete footer. Other part seems to be just fine and dandy.

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll169/heather22584/Garage/emilyspartyandgarage069.jpg
Lean to board from inside.

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll169/heather22584/Garage/emilyspartyandgarage059.jpg
I want to knock this wall out so I can walk from on side to the other. This is side thats leaning. Also be nice to have more room to get around car when working on it. Plan on enclosing the carport and just make some swinging doors to get a car or whatever in it.



Any know if this will work? Hope this is understandable.

moms1978
08-24-2009, 06:09:20 PM
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll169/heather22584/Garage/emilyspartyandgarage063.jpg
This is where the part with footer and other part are separated. Oil bottle is on the side that has concrete footer.

Kjdavis93
08-24-2009, 06:19:25 PM
:eek: Ummm I think I would get my car out of there! I wish I knew what to say but I am left speechless.

moms1978
08-24-2009, 06:20:35 PM
damn

z28rod
08-24-2009, 06:23:58 PM
ive been an architect for 35 yrs. that garage and car port will be there for another 20 yrs, dont worry about it, i bet its been like that for years..........do not knock out the wall or it will fall, just cut a doorway into the garage from carport.

moms1978
08-24-2009, 06:53:25 PM
When I say lean to board I'm talking about the white wood board in this pic
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll169/heather22584/Garage/emilyspartyandgarage058.jpg

Here is a pic the lean to board from inside the garage. (Roof)/ceiling
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll169/heather22584/Garage/emilyspartyandgarage069.jpg

My plan
#1 to dig 3ft post holes right outside the garage wall. These holes will be almost parallel to lean to boards coming off side of roof.

#2Cementing 4x4 wood poles in the holes and bolting them to the lean to boards.
I will cut a hole in carport roof for pole to stick out. This way I will be able to leave carport connected and put in one pole at a time. Eventually I would have every lean to board bolted to a 4x4.

#3 Take out skeleton frame from wall that is leaning and have roof on 4x4 poles on one side.

#4 Use same 4x4 poles to support new carport roof.

Any suggestions greatly appreciated and thank you for reading.

moms1978
09-25-2009, 05:50:23 PM
Here is pic of 1st pole I connected to garage roof. 4x4 10ft long, concreted a little over 2.5ft deep,bolted to roof lean board with a 3/8 gr8 bolt. Along with some other random pics of my main domain.


http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll169/heather22584/Garage/CAM_1678.jpg

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll169/heather22584/Garage/CAM_1682.jpg

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll169/heather22584/Garage/CAM_1680.jpg

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll169/heather22584/Garage/CAM_1683.jpg

moms1978
09-25-2009, 05:57:36 PM
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll169/heather22584/Garage/CAM_1684.jpg

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll169/heather22584/Garage/CAM_1686.jpg

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll169/heather22584/Garage/CAM_1681.jpg



JUST GOT THIS AWESOME DUAL QUAD 460 FORD PU. WANT TO FIX IT UP FOR MY NEPHEW.


http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll169/heather22584/Garage/CAM_1679.jpg

SS2001
09-25-2009, 08:49:59 PM
:eek: Ummm I think I would get my car out of there! I wish I knew what to say but I am left speechless.
I agree. don't have anything in there you don't want buried when it falls over.
Your 4x4 plan may or may not work. It is a band-aid solution at best. I would take the lean-to carport off to reduce the pull/stress on the rest of the garage first. Then look at shoring up the weak wall and put some corner bracing in there.

moms1978
09-25-2009, 11:09:33 PM
I haven't done any corner bracing yet but I did elbow brace the inside frames to the roof, then cross brace the two wall frames together. I have scracthed the plan of taking skeleton wall out. Still like to take the siding off of it then corner brace it from the carport side.

Connecting new frame of the lean to carport to the 4x4's via 2x6's theirfore hopefully their will be no carport weight on the garage and the 4x4's will have two jobs, completly supporting carport roof on that side and keeping roof of garage from moving any further.

tom3
09-25-2009, 11:49:30 PM
I'd guess the actual problem is a lack of lateral bracing. The small garage with the door taking about all the front wall leaves nothing to keep the garage plumb. Plank siding doesn't help either. Posting up the carport will pay off this winter when we get that three feet of snow.

moms1978
10-02-2009, 12:27:08 AM
My friends had a intervention with me tonight over this garage. They basically confirmed that I am crazy, that I need to stop digging post holes and tear the damn thing completely down......

Looks like my two cheapest options are a pole building or metal building. I feel like I'm in this way over my head right now... Camaro almost road ready and garage falling over.

jeeperx2
10-02-2009, 05:46:14 PM
My old garage looked alot worse than that one does! it looked ready to just fall over but when it came time to tear it down i had a hell of a time trying to pull it down! I think your all good there. :)

Cardinal
10-02-2009, 06:29:03 PM
The structure needs lateral bracing. I'd move everything out that isn't bolted down so that the walls could be squared up. Railroad jack or bottle jack, come-a-long a section at a time then brace it to keep it square. X or triangle braces 2' or 16" on center. I would use deck screws in the braces so that they could be removed to re-square it as needed.

Once it was squared, I'd go back and check each brace to make sure that it was secure.

That way you have a square strong structure that you can expand on.

moms1978
10-02-2009, 07:36:31 PM
Yes even though they say I'm crazy I am most likely going to say forget them and continue with my strategy. They are suggesting that I get a 2 1/2 car metal carport that comes in parts put it up and frame it in. And if thats not enough space to satisfy I can put two together. I ask them where the money tree is? Right now I got 22x38 and if I tear it down I refuse to go smaller. I need about 5 more years of saving so instead getting jacked on interest for a loan I'll have cash money up front for some block layers. I figure posting up the carport and redoing the roof on it can be done for under $500 easy. Prices here on lumber at Lowes 2x4x12ft=$2.50 4x4x10ft=$14 2x6x12ft $5.90 I haven't decided what type of plywood to use but the cheap stuff is going for $10 a sheet, and well the expensive is over $20 a sheet. Make this garage last 6 more years then I'll be 30 years old and ready to build my dream garage.

moms1978
10-18-2009, 01:00:54 AM
Getting a new roommate who has a 1970 chevelle ss clone and a 1978 460ci ford 4x4 on 35's. We priced out a new garage and its 4 grand out of my range just about anyway you look at it. This old, leaning, half pole barn, half garage is going to be home to a camaro and chevelle. Truck wont fit under roof. Hes offered to help build and pay for some lumber on carport. An says hes going to get gravel for driveway and found a free shed for my lawn equipment. Can't wait for this guy to move in.

moms1978
10-25-2009, 12:12:13 AM
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll169/heather22584/Garage/garageteardown001.jpg

moms1978
11-12-2009, 04:14:26 PM
Here is the new frame about 85% done, wrapping it around back of garage. Only thing I was able to salvage from old frame was the 4x4 outside poles and one cross board.

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll169/heather22584/Garage/garageteardown184.jpg

Rickdef17
11-12-2009, 04:39:03 PM
My brother is a Garge door man and fixes this stuff all the time. I know you need plenty of Rafter boards and he uses a Jack and comealongs to straighten it out. You can fix it.

moms1978
11-23-2009, 05:16:48 PM
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll169/heather22584/Garage/garageteardown001-1.jpg

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll169/heather22584/Garage/garageteardown002-1.jpg

moms1978
11-27-2009, 03:20:19 PM
Yesterday it was tested with a good rain. NO LEAKS. I used the Liberty self adhesive roll roofing. A bit more expensive then I had hoped but the easy installation made it worth it. Took me and one other guy about 3 hours to do the entire 12x45 roof. No hot tar required. From what I was told you can just stick these roll out shingles right to the plywood and be done. Since the weather seems to be getting quite crazy I decided to spend a bit more and get the ice/hail underlay.

marauder64ky
11-29-2009, 03:00:28 AM
Where did you buy the roll roofing? And by the way, on the leaning garage, 90% of buildings in Kentucky lean like that. Don't worry to much about it.

moms1978
11-29-2009, 09:48:24 PM
RSG.. On Crittenden Dr next to the post office. Retail is $90 a roll,,, luckily I got a buddy whos a manager at a roofing company. He called the order in for me so I got 15% off.

Not worried about the leaning to much anymore. Got this bad boy braced like a mother. Also extended the carport 4foot in the front and 10ft in the back, and took it around the back of the garage to the property line. So what I got is a 12x45 with another 10x10 that goes around the back of garage.

All that is left to do is enclose it and put a door on the front (making barn type doors), and paint, paint, paint, lots of paint.


My junk yard dog Addy. Don't try to come threw the gate or over fence, unless you want to be eaten. My stupid drug addict neighbor can vouch for that. For some reason he thought he was invited into my territory while I was on the roof working. He reached over the gate to open it, his arm was sitting Addy bait.
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll169/heather22584/Garage/001.jpg
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moms1978
12-03-2009, 03:37:00 PM
Here she sleeps for the winter, waiting for another summer of burn outs and chasing tail.
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll169/heather22584/Garage/004.jpg