Details to follow. :crazy:

Mystery.......sweet.

sounds like a top secret German project.........

maybe its a camaro stationwagon!

maybe its a camaro stationwagon!


lol, sounds like it :crazy:

The suspense is killing me

Mystery.......sweet.
Yes. :cool:
sounds like a top secret German project.........
Somewhat... you're getting warmer.
maybe its a camaro stationwagon!
Hmm cool Sleeper concept but no not quite... getting colder. Rennwagen = Race Car
The suspense is killing me
Fair enough. I have some secret photos to upload then I will update you! :crazy:

I'm thinking a camaro with a rennspeed motor and suspension. So probably a 4 wheel drive air cooled motor!

Mike

Loosing interest!:rolleyes:

tic toc tic toc tic toc tic toc.......

I might not look at this thread again if I dont see some bloody photos. ;)

Loosing interest!:rolleyes:


^^Yep...He's BS's us IMO...Maybe an attn. whore :p

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What would a project thread be without a sweet rendering?! Lucky for you I don't have the skills to do a whole car so this nifty logo will suffice. (thanks in part to woody)
I'm thinking a camaro with a rennspeed motor and suspension. So probably a 4 wheel drive air cooled motor!
Mike
Lets not get ahead of ourselves now! I've thrown around the idea of a building a 2nd Gen AWD T/A with 997 GT3 drivetrain but this isn't quite that extreme by any means!
Loosing interest!:rolleyes:
Hmm the viewcount begs to differ! :p
tic toc tic toc tic toc tic toc.......
I might not look at this thread again if I dont see some bloody photos. ;)
No blood yet... Although the photo hosting is squared away now! (& of course 90%+ of the photos in this thread will be my originals)

In The Begining
It started in 2005 with the discovery and acquisition of this über Camaro, returning it to its state of birth.
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Plentiful power and copious wheel spin... the power delivered via its 6-speed wasn't an issue.
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Beneath the shiny GM Torch Red and frighteningly loud exhaust an ancient artifact was found; the original suspension, YES everything, augmented by even more ancient technology: air shocks! :eek:
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Something had to be done... surely this beautiful machine was capable of handling the twistys as well as it flattened the straights.
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The Z28 rode through 2006 unchanged. - Through 2007 its deficiencies were fully realized as its 4th Gen brethren and European rivals made quick work of it in the turns. :o This was unacceptable, and so the idea was cast, this Camaros handling would outshine its looks; as well as its rivals, and stop as quickly as it could go. :cool:

Hours upon hours of searching the depths of the intra-web and NastyZ28 finally brought about some inspiration:
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http://www.porsche.com/usa/models/911/911-gt3-rs/gallery/?gtabindex=4
Gordo:
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Tommy:
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Mary Pozzi:
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Countless hours of research in my virtual home: The Suspension, Wheels & Brakes section resolved hundreds of questions as to what our 2nd Gens really demand. Lists were made, measurements taken, and parts ordered from every corner of the earth, Italy, Greece, Australia, Japan, Germany & beyond.
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What followed was the massive acquisition of parts. So much for a budget. :p
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2008: A voyage was made across the pond to further investigate any handling possibilities I'd yet to discover.
Stu:
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Stu's Camaro from the Ferrari, with Ariel Atom in pursuit:
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Followed by a pilgramadge to the racing mecca of earth; Der Nürburgring. (Supported of course by the suspension Gods @ Bilstein)
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Back on U.S. soil I couldn't wait any longer... Under the cover of night, and even rain, I made my move; installing as many suspension components as possible... the rest had yet to arrive.
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*-12hr day of work on Camaro - will continue editing upon return -*

Seems interesting my curiosity is peaked.

I still see new shocks on a ancient rear end. We need updates ASAP.

It was a great build up until I felt the way che77vy did. All the pics were cool though.

I still see new shocks on a ancient rear end. We need updates ASAP.
Ask and you shall receive... My Camaro employment has been quite demanding but the epic story will continue in a few hours. With more photos too! ;) BTW... the triple black painted Hotchkis leafs are hiding in that photo ^^^ beneath the ancientness.

December 14th 2008
The Camaro emerged into a rainy Mid-West Sunday morning ready for a drive.
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After loading a few hundred pounds of Z06 rotors/calipers; G-Braces, control arms, an array of solid bushings and other items the Z28 was ready for take off.
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Fire up the 355, one brisk smokey burn-out and were off... destined for the secret build center hidden in the hills.
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3hrs later...
The Z28 reached its destination and the wrenching began immediately. Extracted Rear End with Hotchkis leafs. (note Herb Adams mod recently performed)
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Rear End out and called it a day after an hour or so of brisk work.
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December 15th 2008 -
Disasembled Rear End. Fully Stripped, Primed, Painted, & Cleared.
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Free Parts Anyone??? 1 new ebrake cable & a rear end cover are all that'll survive the scrap pile.
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Blurry Camaro image. I blame the paint fumes.
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& Finally, my Bremsflüssigkeit arrived safely from Frankfurt via TireRack.com! :)
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December 16th 2008 - Camaro Rest Day

December 17th 2008 -
Rear End Dry & Preparing for Re-entry.
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Axle Flange was to Large! :eek: Fortunately we had a little professional help down the road. 1 hour & only $25.00 later we returned to install the ARP Metric Studs.
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Beautiful Kore3 components. (www.kore3.com) Superior fit & finish against the 13" C6 Z51 option rotors.
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After flipping the ebrake brackets to the bottom; and using the hydraulic press to bend the cable guide to clear the passenger side staggered shock plate the day was done. Even Fred the mechanic dog was tired.
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December 18th 2008 -
Only a few hours spent today.
11feet of 3" Orange 600 Degree brake ducting arrived today.(www.racerpartswholesale.com) 2x Coats of clear applied to T/A cover prior to installation.
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Don't forget to obliterate your seat belt humps for 305's folks! You'll also need to remove ugliness such as this... fortunately no rust; just ugly. It will be redone properly. Also note the original and future body color: Charcoal Metallic! ;)
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Calipers & Shocks test fitted. Guard dog continues to stand watch over top secret Z28.
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December 19th 2008 -
All 6 Moog Steering Components Properly Painted & Cleared.
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Tire Fitment Instructions:
First, proceed to forcefully cram; uh... I mean gently trial fit tires in wheel well. :)
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Second, realize your exhaust with 5K on it isn't routed tightly enough, nor will it clear the new rear sway bar. Locate Sawzall. Commence with cutting. :confused:
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Okay... that should do it. Whoever said my exhaust was ALREADY too loud... :p
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i have the same brake setup on my car. keep up the good work. What are you doing for a master and prop valve?

intrest reperked. cant wait to see it finished!

i have the same brake setup on my car. keep up the good work. What are you doing for a master and prop valve?
Thanks! :)
C5/C6 is the only way to go! :crazy:
I'm going to run a C5 Master Cylinder similar to NastyZ member nx74ls6 running the C6 Z06 rotors and calipers all the way around. It worked excellently for him so I'm hoping for the same.

Prop valve is a Polished SSBC adjustable with gauge. Woulda gone for black but I got a deal!

I'll be running the C5 Z06 calipers all the way around with C6 Z06 14" Rotors in front(aka hybrid with C5 caliper), C6 Z51 13" Rotors in rear, & C6 Z51 caliper abutments/brackets all the way around.
intrest reperked. cant wait to see it finished!
Heh... I knew you'd come around! :D

December 20th 2008 -
I'm still waiting on a few parts, so rather than complete the rear sway bar installation. We jumped right into tearing off the front today. Not bad for only 3 hrs of labor.
Yes... you must view these ugly photos before the shiny powder coated ones are installed.
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More scrap metal. (Note the coil spring spacers; commonly found with its equally antiquated cousin, air shocks! which I've already removed.)
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Random Rubber hose found in frame with rust particles.
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In any other case I would advise against dooming your brakes by hanging calipers on their lines, but everything will be ripped off anyway, so I left them after the 2nd time they jumped at me! :eek:
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Look! No Lower Control Arms!
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Your dog scares me.;)

Your dog scares me.;)
YES, Fred is one angry old dog... keep your distance. :shy:

what wheels are you going with to clear the brakes?

i think that's a mystery :D but id say 17/18s? judging by inspirations?

Hey, just saw the thread! Looking good! (and I realized how far my car has come since the pic you posted:bowtie: ).

what wheels are you going with to clear the brakes?
18"s :cool:
i think that's a mystery :D but id say 17/18s? judging by inspirations?
Hmmm I know nothing of this mystery...
Hey, just saw the thread! Looking good! (and I realized how far my car has come since the pic you posted:bowtie: ).
Yup! I remember the days of black hood and yellow traction bars. Although I didn't mind the 2-tone.

Thanks for the updates, looking good.

haha gary your such a freak... being all sneaky and such.lol

looks like your having fun!

Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your dog scares me.;)

what dog? LOL

nice work man, hope it stops on a dime and gives you change.

looks like alot of work but worth it!

December 21st 2008 -
2 Fords & 1 Chevy Truck came into the shop today, in need of a fuel pump and other miscellaneous items so the Camaro went on the back burner. Only one upper control arm removed. :shy:
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& a rear end shot:
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December 22nd 2008 -
Drivers side coil spring removed, remember to use plenty of chain folks!:
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The last of the old suspension components removed from the Z28(& some brake line):
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December 23rd 2008 -
Spindle Cleaning Commenced:
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Only once I had intricately cleaned BOTH of them did I realize that the drivers side had a oblonged lower ball joint hole not fit for re-installation.... back to the drawing board I guess!

December 24th & 25th 2008 - Official Camaro Holiday + Time to figure out exactly which spindles interchange with mine, 1980-1981 F-Bodies seem like the best bet so I made a few phone calls.

December 26th 2008 - 1981 Esprit Firebird was located through a buddy! Roughly 30,000-40,000 miles on the clock, so road wear was minimal. It had sat in a field since 1995; the trunk pan was shot but the rest was grade A+.
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50 yards away the front sub-frame, motor and all were located amongst truck & fork-lift components destined for the scrap yard! I came just in time....
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A short time later I had 1 pair of F-Body spindles in excellent condition! If anyone needs a sub-frame this one is $50.00 before it goes to the crusher!
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The massive Dodge Cummins dually / F-Body hauler:
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December 27th 2008 -
Spindle Clean Up - Take 2 :rolleyes: :
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Lower Control Arms & Spindles A Few Hours Later:
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& Some Detailed Shots of the Howe Tall Upper Ball Joints & Howe Standard Lower Ball Joints:
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A Close Up of the NEW Howe Tall Uppers vs. the NEW MOOG Units Supplied in Global Wests Upper Control Arms, BIG Difference!:
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Another Comparison of the Uppers HOWE Tall Ball Joint vs. Moog Units from GW: As you'd expect, I highly recommend the precision HOWE units.
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December 28th 2008 -
Control Arms & 2nd Set of Firebird Spindles Ready for Paint!
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Rear Sway Bar Assembled & Precisely Centered! We're going for better than factory folks:
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Holes Marked & Tapped from Underneath; Drilled Out from Inside; Plus a liberal coating of silicone sealant around bolt holes on bracket:
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Pefection! :bowtie: Those other random holes from exhaust systems over the years will be welded up later on:
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The Passenger Side Control Arm had been dancing around a little; washers just big enough for the new 9/16" bolts were welded in place. The other lower control arm mounts recieved the same treatment as a preventative measure.
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Spindles & Lower Control Arms were primed to fend off rust and cut according to Kore3 Instructions & a photo posted by a fellow NastyZ member:
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December 29th 2008 - Forgot the Camera Today; Lower Control Arm painting was completed; and hubs & rotors test fit on the freshly trimmed spindles.

December 30th 2008 - January 5th 2009 -
Camaro building was getting a bit cold so I jumped at the opportunity to pick up a fellow gearheads Maserati from down south and cruise it through all of Florida! :cool:
Made in Modena:
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Gulf Coast in Northern Florida:
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Sunrise Upon the Twin Turbos:
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Faster Than Ferrari's of Its Time! :eek:
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Only 1 2nd Gen Firebird Spoted in the South.... Mostly Cadillacs & Convertibles:
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Back Up The West Coast & Return to Camaro Building! :bowtie:
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January 6th 2009 -
Fortunately this past week wasn't entirely unproductive for the Camaro, as a number of items came back with necessary work completed.

Spindles with caliper bracket holes tapped out; dust shield hole left alone for future use with brake duct cooling plates. Also note I didn't have to cut any of the center section out since I'm using the 14" Z06 Rotors which moves the caliper further out and allows me to retain more of the stock spindle strength.
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Lower Control Arms Returned with Del-a-lums & HOWE ball joints installed.
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MOOG UBJs Installed In GW UCAs Swapped Out for HOWE units; Minor Powder Coat Grinding Was Required for The Larger Body:
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Custom Bent Rear Hardline, Axle Line & 3 of 5 FlexKore Stainless Hoses Installed:
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Driveshaft Stripped & Repainted Satin Black with all seals & contact surfaces taped off; Eventually this will be replaced by a Carbon Fiber Driveshaft.
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Random Aluminum Trays with Old Brake Parts; & New 9/16" Grade 8 Lower Control Arm Bolts:
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Looks good. I see you are busy too lol

hey that looks like my hose in your picture.

Love the way you are "telling" a story and running a diary like dialogue with the build-up!

Veryy entertaining and it is enjoyable to see you progress!

Keep it up!

Looks good. I see you are busy too lol
Yes! Very much so... :confused: & the Camaro project is only part-time.
hey that looks like my hose in your picture.
Ha... are you referring to the "picture within a picture" on how to cut the spindles!? I couldn't recall who originally posted that but it was a handy reference!
Love the way you are "telling" a story and running a diary like dialogue with the build-up!

Veryy entertaining and it is enjoyable to see you progress!

Keep it up!
Thanks! I've been working hard on the Camaro & the Project Thread; I know people prefer cool detailed photos rather than reading a long paragraph & trying to picture it in their heads.

Pretty cool, man. Keep up the good work! :cool:

Great post!!

Good work Gary..

Nice pics from the 360, I never saw any of your video footage of that run to Goodwood, you'll have to put it on youtube or something...

keep it coming...

Project time has been limited but progress has been steady! A few issues with parts and fasteners holding up the works but all is well now and its only a matter of time before the Z28 is out tackling the streets again.

But I'll let the photos do the talking! :D

January 8th 2009 -

Lower control arm nuts and bolts arrived in Grade 8, & nyloc just as I wanted from Bolt Depot. The upper knurled bolts were ordered from Year One.
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Then, a little custom front sway bar frame reinforcement! Crafted from 1/4" steel that began as new brackets for truck step up bars! Even contoured to the frame and steering box, thanks to my good buddy! ;)
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All 2nd Gen's aren't created equal; in measurements that is. Hence the need for a little rear sway bar spacer fabrication:
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Hard to tell which is the spacer and which is the bushing?!?!
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End the day with a little grinding; a whole lot of grinding actually.
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But of course you can't leave it bare! Which means a bunch of Wall Street Journals to cover off & 2 coats of primer while you're half asleep at midnight:
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January 10th 2009 -

Goal for the day; I decide to repaint the brake booster. BUT, rather than remove the 4 most obnoxious bolts on the car, I figured I'd just re-shoot it black and be done in a few minutes.

Result; I got carried away and built a 355 out of Wall Street Journals... needless to say there was NO overspray on ANYTHING! ;) and it turned out good in the end!
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Some assembly work with Timkin bearings and seals into the hubs with ARP 12MM studs.
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& a few coats of paint later, the chassis looks like new! (well, the sides and bottom anyway :shy: )
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January 15th 2009 -

I don't know what I love more, the Porsche wheels, the 14" Corvette rotors, or the NT01 tires?!? :confused: Custom Z28 center caps to be revealed later... ;)
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Made possible in part by Andris Skulte & Skulte Performance Designs: www.skulte.com Thanks to their extremely high standard of craftsmanship! :bowtie:
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Looking good! I like the top secret theme.

Looking good! I like the top secret theme.
Top Secret Indeed!!! :cool: Although, I think half the secret is out now! :eek:

January 15th 2009 -

I'm sure your sharp eyes caught that the C5 Z06 calipers were 0.3" too high in the wheel shot! More than a few alignment issues clearly: :screwup:
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Late 2nd Gen Spindles are too long also! :eek: This is going to take some thinking.... :brightide
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January 17th 2009 -

The Z28 is hungry for coil springs... FEED ME! :crazy: Notice the Del-A-Lum Bushings!
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Easy does it....
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& Bada-bing its installed, PLUS an obnoxiously large coil spring photo!
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Howe Tall Upper Ball Joints installed!
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Now that the hard work is completed... time to break out the wheel wax:
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18x10...
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Now more reflective than ever! Porsche 997 Turbo Wheels:
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January 20th 2009 -

Started the morning off with some rear shock installation! Note the discrete images of the Nürburgring hidden throughout my Z28! :p
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Front sway bar, tie rods and steering linkage installed! & a small Explosion of anti-seize on the tie rod sleeves!
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1 REALLLY bad photo of the front sway bar mounts, BEEFED up 7/16 hex-head bolts into 3/4"+ of threaded steel frame! The stock Hotchkis brackets needed minor modification on the outer side to hold these bolts properly.
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Working our way back you see the ample 0.25"+ space between the 305/35/18s and the leaf spring.
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Even further back, a few parts are discovered in the trunk.... INTERESTING... :shy:
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Fred the Dog is still on hand for motivational support! He doesn't seem too keen on photos.
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One very dirty and overspray covered Camaro. Some quality time with a clay bar, wax and a buffer will bring it back!
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Good job!

The back wheels look 50X better than the front ones IMO...There just not so "common"...

Keep up the good werk!

Good job!

The back wheels look 50X better than the front ones IMO...There just not so "common"...

Keep up the good werk!
Thanks! It was a very lengthy decision process on the wheels. I have been hiding them since late Summer 2007. & I enjoy that they are semi-controversial! :o

Perhaps I am the first Z28 owner to ever dawn Porsche wheels??? :D

Ultimately I'll be taking the Z28 back to its Original Charcoal Metallic paint with Red stripes! That should set the Charcoal-keyed wheels off even more!

January 22nd 2009 -

The New C5 Master Cylinder came back from the machinist!.... Although I immediately realize a difference in my brake booster vs. previous specs. I was given, WHOOPS! :confused: looks like its time to find a new C5 MC on eBay! Lesson: don't trust every spec. you read online! Anyone need a new MC? ;)
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Take x2 on the caliper abutments! Am I starting to see a trend here??? :rolleyes:
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Lots & lots of detailed measuring; Thanks to whoever invented the digital caliper. It's quite handy when ordering high tolerance pieces you can't return!
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Still empty at the moment, but look we solved the spindle length/grease cap issue!
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January 24th 2009 -

The Camaro was nice enough to give up the lift so other GMs could take in some fresh Mobil1. :bowtie: We're waiting on parts anyway...
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More lift action... Check out those tires. ;)
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No rotors on the driver's side either... All in good time I suppose.
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February 2nd 2009 -

Look a package from Australia! Thanks to Tobin @ Kore3 for recommending these great rotors! (www.kore3.com) He's been instrumental in solving all the recent brake system issues!
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Who else has "Thermo-Graphic Temperature Monitoring" on their rotors from the factory, or the Aussie Kangaroo Paw Design?!?
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More importantly, my caliper abutment spacing issues are solved!
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Hybrid 14" Rotor anyone? These DBA rotors should last 3x times that of OEM GM. 1 reason I have 2 sets of cracked 14" rotors from Z06 owners who upgraded! They'll be crafted into something later... This means my fronts don't match my OEM 13" Z51 rears but thats true Rennwagen function over form.
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Finished early and decided to remove what was left of the interior to order new door locks. Why not?
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Wow, a great job. I'm taking notes on the brakes. Very Interesting.

can the front rims be put on for picture purposes?

Wow, a great job. I'm taking notes on the brakes. Very Interesting.
Thanks, taking notes is good! I'd REALLLY like to put ZR1 brakes on the next car I do but we'll see. Best advice I can give on the brakes is to go through Kore3 ;) Saves a lot of time.

can the front rims be put on for picture purposes?
Actually, we just got the whole front end sorted on Sunday. Wheels are on and the only thing left to do is complete the intricate brake lines around the master cylinder and prop valve and it'll be running again! Only catch is my camera went dead after one photo but I'll post updates soon enough.

Although, body bushings, SFCs, G-Braces and exhaust will be completed in the coming weeks. :bowtie: It's getting closer.

The Z28 had all 4 wheels on the ground Saturday! (for the first time since Dec. 08!) All thats left to do at the moment is work out the M12x1.0 & 1.5 fittings in the C5 MC and it'll be running again! :)

Current photo updates to follow... ;)

This is a very cool thread, but worthless without more pics!!
I bet it looks sweet with the matching front wheels.

Get that camera fixed!

very nice:bowtie:

This is a very cool thread, but worthless without more pics!!
I bet it looks sweet with the matching front wheels.
Sweet Indeed! ;) The photos are coming...
Get that camera fixed!
No worries I didn't kill it, just had to recharge! We're good to go now.
very nice:bowtie:
Thanks!

February 14th 2009 -
Finally! At long last we've solved all the rotor/hub issues! Its a miracle! :D

The hub had to be turned down a few thousandths for the slightly different PBA rotor casting to slide right on properly! Now we're golden.
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The 2nd C5 MC is bolted up in place! Waiting for us to finalize a plan for the brake lines.
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Our Mastercool Hydraulic Flaring Tool made this job much much easier than the tricky manual flaring tools. ;)
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I finished the day by torquing all the caliper brackets & abutments to spec; using enough Loctite for a fleet of Camaro's. These brackets will have a long meeting with a torch if they ever need to be removed.
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February 21st 2009 -
As promised, more wheel shots! :cool: Today was the first day since Dec. 2008 that the Z28 has had all 4 tires back on the ground!

Money Shot:
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Still on rollers in the back in this photo; but trust me it was rolling around on all 4 Nittos later. ;)
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As you know Late 2nd Gen Z28s only say "Camaro" on the glove box door and no where on the exterior. My Camaro was mistaken for a Vette quite often prior to these calipers, so I can only imagine what questions I'll get this summer about my Corvette Z28?!? :confused: LOL.
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Time to fill up the rear end! Its almost time to take it for a spin...
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Half an hour later.... It drank somewhere in the neighborhood of 5 bottles of gear oil!!! :eek: Seeing as it was drained entirely, PLUS the higher capacity TA cover I was only a little suprised.
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February 21st 2009 -
My original mirror had suffered through a period of neglect prior to restoration. Although not as bad as some it was about time for a new one...
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A comparison between the original and the one NastyZ member nobreaks254 sold me from his 1979 Z28. I'm quite satisfied with the swap! :bowtie:
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February 24th 2009 -
A final tribute to my Torq Thrust D's! :bowtie: They served me well through the 2000's but alas fat rotors will serve my Z28s needs better than fat sidewalls.
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Thanks to NastyZ member Bigdog for giving them a loving home on his wifes Camaro! The plan is for them to be reincarnated with black powdercoating.
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Off to live out their days in the warm dry climate of Texas! :shy:
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You can expect more nice bright photos with the 18"s and new suspension once my Z is out of the indoor winter cave and tearing up the streets in spring!

the wheels look right at home on your car gary!!!!!!!!!
great job!

the wheels look right at home on your car gary!!!!!!!!!
great job!
Thanks! I think its coming together very nicely. :bowtie: Now I just can't wait to start adding all the Carbon Fiber bits. :cool:

The Camaro is now to a point where its driveable and we plan on installing the body bushings today so I may have a few outdoor shots next time I update...

The Z28 is nearing completion.... It was out tearing up the streets this week without an exhaust!!! Updates to follow. :D

The Z28 is nearing completion.... It was out tearing up the streets this week without an exhaust!!! Updates to follow. :D

Looking good. Those brakes look like a mission to sort out, seems like you got there in the end..

Got a tunnel run in the morning with a big meet at the end, so I'll try to take some pics and put them up..

Looking good. Those brakes look like a mission to sort out, seems like you got there in the end..

Got a tunnel run in the morning with a big meet at the end, so I'll try to take some pics and put them up..
Heh, funny you mention a tunnel run, I actually thought some of those long London tunnels woulda been perfect for all the noisy mayhem I was causing the other day. :o Only bridges and overpasses around here to resonate sound! Tunnels are far and few between, noisy black TVR Tuscans are also in short supply. ;)

Oh and the exhaust is back to normal now! Re-routed to suit the new rear sway bar and 305/35/18s! :cool:

I can't wait for the next update with pics and hopefully a vid of the car.

Wow! Amazing stuff!

Heh, funny you mention a tunnel run, I actually thought some of those long London tunnels woulda been perfect for all the noisy mayhem I was causing the other day. :o Only bridges and overpasses around here to resonate sound! Tunnels are far and few between, noisy black TVR Tuscans are also in short supply. ;)

Oh and the exhaust is back to normal now! Re-routed to suit the new rear sway bar and 305/35/18s! :cool:


How's the progress going.. ? We want vids of the thing on the wheels.. !!!

Great tunnel run on sunday.. Clip from my new door mini cam here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSo64oI8Mbs

I've put some pics up and links in a new topic in International area..

ok gary its been long enough where those outdoor FULL car pics you promised!!!!!!!!!;)

ok gary its been long enough where those outdoor FULL car pics you promised!!!!!!!!!;)
Heh okay... I've made you all wait long enough. (although unintentional)Once I got everything completed it was wayyyy too much fun to drive so I've been doing that and working on finishing touches rather than sitting at the PC uploading photos.

With any luck I'll get around to posting all the previous work, from the brake line issues, to the tough time installing the front solid body bushings. :confused: Until then though, I'll tide you over with a photo I took today.

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now that^^ is an AWESOME photo, new background on my comp

now that^^ is an AWESOME photo, new background on my comp
Thanks! :cool: I take lots and lots of photos so I like to think I'm gradually perfecting the craft. My work is somewhat limited with a 10.1MP point and shoot so its probably high time I move up to a Canon/Nikon DSLR! ;)

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Thought everyone would enjoy a full auto shot! ;) Hanging out with its wheel cousins.

Looks good!

If you like Porsche's check out forum.rennlist.com and reutterwerk.com. They both help a lot if you need any thing Porsche related.

Updates?

I like it very much!

coolest project thread i've seen so far. Keep up the good work and good luck

You have a very nice looking car! I was wondering what size tires your car had on the Torque Thrust wheels that it had on it before you started. That is the look that I'm looking for for my Z28. I bought 15x7 front wheels and 15x8 rears for mine, and from what I've seen on here it looks like 275-60-15 rears will give me what I'm looking for on the rear. I'm just not sure for the front end yet. Your car had what I'm looking for as far as filling up the front wheel wells. ...Joe

Looks good!
Thanks! You have an equally sharp big bumper! :cool:

If you like Porsche's check out forum.rennlist.com and reutterwerk.com. They both help a lot if you need any thing Porsche related.
Ha, indeed I do like Porsches. I actually bought my first one earlier this year hence the reason I haven't been around much on NastyZ since I've been working non-stop on the aircooled bugger. :D Oddly enough it's also red... I think I'll need to find a new color spectrum for future acquisitions. :confused:

Updates?
Hmm, probably more than I can recall since it's been a while now. I have Keith's Custom Works Carbon Fiber Radiator Cover installed after minor fabrication. New black anodized billet aluminum fender/radiator support braces up front and a whole slew of fasteners have been replaced with allen head stainless. Otherwise I also imported a set of Recaro Sportster CS Seats from Germany which I haven't had the time to install as it'll require a fair amount of fabrication to make seat brackets that are as low as I'd like so I can wear a full face helmet while thrashing the Z28 in competition events.

I like it very much!
Thanks!

coolest project thread i've seen so far. Keep up the good work and good luck
Thanks, that means a lot! I take pride in my photography and writing so I figured I'd do my best to make this an enjoyable thread for fellow 2nd Gen owners to take in! :)

You have a very nice looking car! I was wondering what size tires your car had on the Torque Thrust wheels that it had on it before you started. That is the look that I'm looking for for my Z28. I bought 15x7 front wheels and 15x8 rears for mine, and from what I've seen on here it looks like 275-60-15 rears will give me what I'm looking for on the rear. I'm just not sure for the front end yet. Your car had what I'm looking for as far as filling up the front wheel wells. ...Joe
Thanks for the compliments! I try to keep the current Torch Red paint on her as best I can!

In the rear I only had 255/65/15 if I'm recalling the height correctly, which as you know is a conservative width for the rear, but the offset on mine placed the wheels as far out as they could go as you can probably tell. The front tires were also BF Goodrich Radial T/As but in a 215/60/15, I would suggest a wider front tire for your Z28, i.e. 225 or 235 if possible depending on offset etc. Goodluck!