Im getting side pipes for my 78. Im looking at the Patriot side pipes. They are $200. Has anyone used or heard of them? How hard are side pipes to install? Thanks, Zak.




http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=PTE%2DH1060&N=700+400002+115&autoview=sku

Contact the presiding members of the sidepipe clique. ;)

Aces and Lemanster both run sidepipes and Aces is a 78 with a GTO drivetrain.

Are the Patriot sidepipes a single tube design with 3 fake inlets?

Contact the presiding members of the sidepipe clique. ;)

Aces and Lemanster both run sidepipes and Aces is a 78 with a GTO drivetrain.

Are the Patriot sidepipes a single tube design with 3 fake inlets?


They dont have any fake inlets. Here they are...

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=PTE%2DH1060&N=700+400002+115&autoview=sku

Let me know what you think. Zak.

they should work fine as long as you don't lower the car...:cool:

they should work fine as long as you don't lower the car...:cool:


Haha, Im actually thinking about lifting it an inch or two. Clearance shouldnt be a problem. Have yall heard of this company, quality? Zak.

My girlfriend ordered me side pipes today for my birthday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You dont know how excited I am. :bowtie: Zak.

My girlfriend ordered me side pipes today for my birthday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You dont know how excited I am. :bowtie: Zak.

Well show her then ;)

PS - CONGRATS :D

Well show her then ;)

PS - CONGRATS :D

yup, you know the rules.... need pics;)

Well show her then ;)

PS - CONGRATS :D


Haha, Without a doubt!!! :confused:

Thanks. Zak.

yup, you know the rules.... need pics;)


Of the car yes, of her NO! Lol. Zak.

I was looking at Patriots before I was shown these...... http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=HOK-21063HKR&N=700+115&autoview=sku
Patriots are okay....but 3" looks too small.....and they are 3" shorter
then these, which are SLIGHTLY short as it is......so I vote no.

Get these , for some reason this model # is stuck in my head.
21063HKR from Summit, 4" sidepipes, 63" long, and they look 10x better then Patriots.
I paid a fabricator $400 and gave him the steel bar (Home Depot electrical aisle) to mount
them to my custom Street and Performance headers

These are the "mufflers" Tommy showed me that I got as well. http://www.spiralturbobaffles.com/
I'm into my pipes for ~$1200 -

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f122/Aceshigh22/LS1%20Implant/DSC02061.jpg

I like the 4 into 1 setup also. while I said they will work fine.. the original Hookers just look and sound badass:)
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r250/k5jmp/junkbin/my%20cars/HPIM0395.jpg

The Hookers are my favorite too. They are impossible to find though.

Mikey everytime I see your car I think of Batman. :crazy:

Mikey everytime I see your car I think of Batman. :crazy:

yeah, wifey calls it the batmobile too.. lol;)

yeah, wifey calls it the batmobile too.. lol;)

Dang guys, those are sick looking!!!! A little too pricey though. Im only 17 and $400 is too much, but eventually I will get those. They are awesome. Thanks for the pictures. Zak.

keep saving your nickels and dimes.. they do show up on evilbay every once in a while... but yeah, they are pricey.
Took me a long time to finally get my hands on these... chased them as they passed through the hands of several owners over a couple of years time span.

keep saving your nickels and dimes.. they do show up on evilbay every once in a while... but yeah, they are pricey.
Took me a long time to finally get my hands on these... chased them as they passed through the hands of several owners over a couple of years time span.
I like to think a little piece of me is in those sidepipes :p

I like to think a little piece of me is in those sidepipes :p

the dented tubes??? lol
j/k... I think that was Joe jumping railroad tracks;)

it's been soooo long I don't even recall who owned them before Joe:confused:

4 to 1 or keep it under the car imo

the dented tubes??? lol
j/k... I think that was Joe jumping railroad tracks;)

it's been soooo long I don't even recall who owned them before Joe:confused:



LOL... Yeah the dents would be the lil piece of me in them... LOl

I got them off ebay...it was a bidding war down to the last few seconds.. thank god my wife doesnt know how much I really spent on them... :innocent:

LOL... Yeah the dents would be the lil piece of me in them... LOl

I got them off ebay...it was a bidding war down to the last few seconds.. thank god my wife doesnt know how much I really spent on them... :innocent:

we were bidding against each other... remember?:crazy:
and fortunately didn't know one another either...:innocent:

ACESHIGH, AND K5JMP - I just bought a set of dynomax headers, they have the collector on the ends alreadys.. If I wanted to run those side pipes would I have to have the collector removed? Were they a pain to install?
If you guys would, could you post more pics of your cars with those side pipes??

Thanks,
mike

I will stick with the Patriots for right now and move to more expensive stuff later. Zak.

ACESHIGH, AND K5JMP - I just bought a set of dynomax headers, they have the collector on the ends alreadys.. If I wanted to run those side pipes would I have to have the collector removed? Were they a pain to install?
If you guys would, could you post more pics of your cars with those side pipes??

Thanks,
mike

what you need to make them play is an "S-pipe"... basically it makes a 180 then a 90 to dump into the pipe.

mine are the ole skool real deals.. like Tommy has...
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r250/k5jmp/ebay%20pipes/tommypipes.jpg
mine are the same... and are near impossible to find.
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r250/k5jmp/ebay%20pipes/cleaned-upSmall.jpg
Ace has the setup you are looking to do.

I love my hookers

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff214/phaycyderide/DSCF3327.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff214/phaycyderide/june2308056.jpg

we were bidding against each other... remember?:crazy:
and fortunately didn't know one another either...:innocent:

No shyt.. I didnt know it was you.. I remember someone saying another member was bidding or something like that.. I figured it was a mistake to post the ebay link... lol

Well, Ya got em.. Just took a little longer on the shipping.. ;)

And remember, if ya ever decide to get rid of them, I'd like 1st dibs.. I dont care if I'm riding a mountain bike and have no car to put them on.. lol

I had apic like tommy too.. but cant find it.. On the engine stand with the headers and I had my pipes on it too with stands holding them up.. Looked like something out of return of the jedi... lol

You got it Joe...:)

what you need to make them play is an "S-pipe"... basically it makes a 180 then a 90 to dump into the pipe.

mine are the ole skool real deals.. like Tommy has...
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r250/k5jmp/ebay%20pipes/tommypipes.jpg
mine are the same... and are near impossible to find.
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r250/k5jmp/ebay%20pipes/cleaned-upSmall.jpg
Ace has the setup you are looking to do.


Those look sweet!

You know, for all the time and energy, it might be worth just getting a set of regular headers, chopping the collector off, custom bending some proper diameter extensions, and re-welding on the collector.

I used to do custom exhaust work...

dammit. ^ he stole my idea..

You know, for all the time and energy, it might be worth just getting a set of regular headers, chopping the collector off, custom bending some proper diameter extensions, and re-welding on the collector.

I used to do custom exhaust work...

I was right on the verge of trying that when Brian posted the ones I have. I see no reason why it wouldn't work if you are good with a mandrel bender and a TIG.:)

you couldnt mig the pipes??? I know it wouldnt be as nice looking.. But my plans for my homemade set were to cut off the collectors from my existing headers, get some already bent tubes, cut it all to fit out to the side of the car, buy a merge collector and the 4" pipes.. Would just need to make the slash cut on the ends... I only have accessto , and experience with a mig though..

you couldnt mig the pipes??? I know it wouldnt be as nice looking.. But my plans for my homemade set were to cut off the collectors from my existing headers, get some already bent tubes, cut it all to fit out to the side of the car, buy a merge collector and the 4" pipes.. Would just need to make the slash cut on the ends... I only have access, and experience, with a mig though..

tough to have as precise heat control with a MIG.. which makes the tube thickness critical. thinner walled tube is tougher.

it can be done though.. tiny stitches works OK. with a TIG you could just cruise.

I sectioned Joe's dents otta mine with a MIG:)

I would love to learn to, but guys...Im 17. This is a little much for me. Unless someone can teach me, lol. I am continually gaining knowledge and "skills". Or at least they are what I consider skills. Thanks for the input, I will definately think about it. Zak.

tough to have as precise heat control with a MIG.. which makes the tube thickness critical. thinner walled tube is tougher.

it can be done though.. tiny stitches works OK. with a TIG you could just cruise.

I sectioned Joe's dents otta mine with a MIG:)


Gotcha... I have mig'd 2.5 exhaust pipe from the auto parts store..
Wasnt pretty, but it held together and didnt leak. Also did a smalled diam pipe for a lawn tractor.. LOL wish I had taken pics.. Father in law had a Bolen tractor, iirc.. Old model, 197x something.. With the round muffler bolted the the head and a pipe goin straight up.. I took it off one day when he wasnt around, and made a sidepipe for it that ran down the right side and stopped right b4 the back wheel.. Was cool.. :cool:

Gotcha... I have mig'd 2.5 exhaust pipe from the auto parts store..
Wasnt pretty, but it held together and didnt leak. Also did a smalled diam pipe for a lawn tractor.. LOL wish I had taken pics.. Father in law had a Bolen tractor, iirc.. Old model, 197x something.. With the round muffler bolted the the head and a pipe goin straight up.. I took it off one day when he wasnt around, and made a sidepipe for it that ran down the right side and stopped right b4 the back wheel.. Was cool.. :cool:


Haha, thats awesome...

MY SIDEPIPES ARE IN!!!!!!!! Im so happy. lol. Zak. Be ready, im sure i will run into some problems and need more help from you guys. Thanks, Zak.

post pics when they r in and of how ya did it..

post pics when they r in and of how ya did it..


Sure thing. She wont let me open them until tomorrow (My 18th Birthday!!!)... But I definately will. Zak.

Happy Birthday to me!!! I just opened my sidepipes!!! I Love my girlfriend!!!

They are on!!! I will post pictures ASAP!!! Thanks, Zak.

No shyt.. I didnt know it was you.. I remember someone saying another member was bidding or something like that.. I figured it was a mistake to post the ebay link... lol

Well, Ya got em.. Just took a little longer on the shipping.. ;)

And remember, if ya ever decide to get rid of them, I'd like 1st dibs.. I dont care if I'm riding a mountain bike and have no car to put them on.. lol

I had apic like tommy too.. but cant find it.. On the engine stand with the headers and I had my pipes on it too with stands holding them up.. Looked like something out of return of the jedi... lol

I was the other one bidding on them!!!

I was the other one bidding on them!!!

nothing like your freinds running the bid up a bit... lol lol lol

post up them pics Zak.. and happy burfday even if it is a couple days late;)

Gee thanx guys... :P

nothing like your freinds running the bid up a bit... lol lol lol

post up them pics Zak.. and happy burfday even if it is a couple days late;)


Thanks. Ok, let me load them and they will be straight on here. I wanted to try to do it ourselves, but my dad said he would rather just pay the difference and have someone else do it. So I had Phil's Muffler Shop do it here in Fort Worth. He did my full Flowmaster exhaust on my 85 Corvette. He does great work. Anyway, it took them 4 hours to do it. Its kinda weird...I dont have a picture of the underneath yet, but he crossed the exhaust pipes (L Header is Connected to R Sidepipe, R Header is Connected to L Sidepipe), he said for more clearance??? I dont know, but they look and sound amazing. I am very happy with them. Thanks guys, Zak.

Here they are, Ill get better ones up later. Thanks, Zak.

In The wrapping Paper

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e231/Corvette85350/My%201978%20Camaro/78001-1.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e231/Corvette85350/My%201978%20Camaro/78002-1.jpg

My Amazing Girlfriend Who Bought The Pipes For Me Wrote on My Car...

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e231/Corvette85350/My%201978%20Camaro/78006.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e231/Corvette85350/My%201978%20Camaro/78008.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e231/Corvette85350/My%201978%20Camaro/78007.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e231/Corvette85350/My%201978%20Camaro/78005-1.jpg

And Here They Are!!!

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e231/Corvette85350/My%201978%20Camaro/78009.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e231/Corvette85350/My%201978%20Camaro/78010.jpg

How do they sound? are they loud, do you have the mufflers in them?

thanks,
mike

How do they sound? are they loud, do you have the mufflers in them?

thanks,
mike


They sound better than my Flowmasters... Yes, they have the built in mufflers... They arent as loud just idling, but as soon as you touch the gas they are louder than the Flowmasters, with a much deeper sound. They give it that muscle car sound you would expect our cars to sound like. I love them. I highly recommend Patriot sidepipes, you wont be disappointed. I hope to take a video of it soon and post it on here. Then you can hear/see for yourself. Thanks, Zak.

Looks good... do they have longer pipes? Looks like they could have been about 10-12" longer, but it works...

Not sure how crossing the pipes could have made less ground clearance.. Is it possible to get some pics of it underneath? Really curious to see how it was done...

Notice any power gain/loss with them?

Looks good... do they have longer pipes? Looks like they could have been about 10-12" longer, but it works...

Not sure how crossing the pipes could have made less ground clearance.. Is it possible to get some pics of it underneath? Really curious to see how it was done...

Notice any power gain/loss with them?

Yeah, they could have been longer and they sell them in many sizes. Yeah, when I have a chance I will get pictures.

Yes, my motor runs so much better. It sounds amazing as well. Zak.

I'm still drooling over the old skool ones.


Don't the 'smog police' bust your stones? In NJ they would be on me like stink on ___.

I'm still drooling over the old skool ones.


Don't the 'smog police' bust your stones? In NJ they would be on me like stink on ___.


In Texas if your car is over 25 years old, there is no emissions standards.

Hey guys, Ill get underneath pictures soon... It has been really wet/cold/foggy here for the last week. Its getting annoying. As soon as the weather is halfway decent, or until I get my shocks in the mail to install, Ill take pictures. Thanks, Zak.