Pondering putting an 80-81 cowl scoop on my 71 RS SS, but I'd like to see more pictures of 70-73 camaros with this scoop, if anyone has any. This is the only one I've found so far:

http://hometown.aol.com/elinder00/FSEVENTY2.html

and here's one with an L88 scoop and really cool striping detail:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2436649465&category=6161

My project has an L88 hood scoop riveted and bondo'd on, but it's cracking, and is uneven height in the back for some reason. I'd prefer either an L88 fiberglass hood or the 80-81 cowl I think, but I'm trying to decide.

Thinking maybe the 80-81 cowl scoop would look better with black stripes? I'm planning on 71 green metallic with factory stripes, was thinking white stripes, but the scoop might look a lot better with black stripes. The L88 hood in those pictures looks awesome with the striping detail like that.

Anybody have an opinion?

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71 RS SS396 project in the works: B-body spindles w/1LE 12" ft discs / WS6 J65 TA 11.1" rear disc brakes, poly susp., 1.25" WS6 ft & 1" adjustable rr sway bars / 4 speed nodular case 3.42 wide ratio Super T-10 / 3.23 posi rear / 81 Z cold air induction (or L88 hood?)

It might look better without the stripes.Just paint the hood scoop black.

[This message has been edited by 70rat (edited October 12, 2003).]

I think I definitely want stripes though. I think the 70-73's look a whole lot better with stripes, where the later models look better without stripes. Not sure if I can justify the cost of a fiberglass L88 hood when I have an L88 scoop and the 80-81 scoop already... Any opinions?

I wouldn't put a plastic hood scoop like that L-88 on a steel hood. I had one and it cracked in the winter, due to differences in expansion rates. I think the 80-81 air induction always looks great, but I don't like the racing stripes on it. I'd just get the air induction decals for it.

I also have a 78-79 Z28 hood and scoop, probably going to sell it, but I was wondering what that would look like as well. There's one on an all black car on ebay now, the pictures don't make it look so hot. I think those scoops look great wtih the 78+ front end, but not so hot with the old RS front end.

I have a '71 with the '80 scoop. the scoop is a bolt on. The scoop is one solid color and is mounted over the original stripe pattern. I will get pics posted tonight.

Don't fiberglass a scoop on a steel hood. I bought mine done that way and the previous owner said the hairline cracks appeared in no time.

When mine gets too far gone, I'm buying a all steel cowl hood.

That one blue car states the L-88 hood is all steel. I have a glass one that I'm not going to use because they "jello shake" too much and it's difficult to make glass really smooth like steel.

"jello shake?" If I get a new one, I'll definitely get a steel one I guess.
Is yours an L88 style cowl hood, or just a regular cowl hood? Do you have it on the car yet?
I was kinda wondering what a fiberglass hood looks like once it's painted with a gloosy finish (to see the ripples). Just curious.

The 79 hoods require you to cut a hole in the hood, and I believe the 80-81 bolts on. I currently have the 79 hood on my car & a 81 hood setting in the barn. Hard to find air cleaner for the 81 hood that doesn't require a second mort.

http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/view_page.pl?page_id=291782&make_type_query=make%3DChevrolet&model_brand_query=model%3DCamaro&tree=Chevrolet%20Camaro

I need an 80-81 hood, I have the scoop and all the rest... The bolt that holds the solenoid into my scoop is broken off though, so may be looking for another scoop as well.
Probably gonna use the 80-81 scoop, unless I can find a good deal on an L88 hood.

There's also a switch on the accellerator pedal on my project car, I think it was the TH400 kickdown switch (since it was originally a 396), and I think the cowl scoops use the same switch, so I'm already setup there. It's got a TH350 now, going to 4 speed soon.

check my photo bud

Thanks, but that's not an L88 hood, and that
s a 78-81. Just wanted to get a feel for what an L88 or 80-81 Z28 air induction scoop would look like on a 70-73. The stock Z28 scoop, not any cowl hood.

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71 RS SS396 project in the works: B-body spindles w/1LE 12" ft discs / WS6 J65 TA 11.1" rear disc brakes, poly susp., 1.25" WS6 ft & 1" adjustable rr sway bars / 4 speed nodular case 3.42 wide ratio Super T-10 / 3.23 posi rear / 81 Z cold air induction (or L88 hood?)

<font face="Arial,Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Chuck78:</font>
"jello shake?" If I get a new one, I'll definitely get a steel one I guess.

That was my point. That one he's got has to be a custom made unit if it's all steel. No one makes the L-88 in steel.

Is yours an L88 style cowl hood, or just a regular cowl hood? Do you have it on the car yet?
It is a primered L-88 and on a car that I bought. It's slowly making it's way into the dumpster.


[This message has been edited by Psychohamster (edited October 13, 2003).]

What exactly do you mean by "jello shake?" Does the hood have some serious flex in it under vibration?

Any pictures of the 80-81 stock Z28 cowl hood on a 70-73????


http://www.showcars-bodyparts.com sells all kinds of custom fiberglass bodyparts for 70-81 Camaros, and they also sell a lot of steel stuff also, including steel L88 cowl hoods. They sell the famed A&A air dams also. Now if I could just find a cheap D80 front ABS spoiler!

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71 RS SS396 project in the works: B-body spindles w/1LE 12" ft discs / WS6 J65 TA 11.1" rear disc brakes, poly susp., 1.25" WS6 ft & 1" adjustable rr sway bars / 4 speed nodular case 3.42 wide ratio Super T-10 / 3.23 posi rear / 81 Z cold air induction (or L88 hood?)

I had an L-88 one time, and the top of it is so thin and wide, that the scoop wobbles around mostly up and down, but a little all over, kind of like a piece of jello on your hood.

Click on my sig for links to pics. I have an 81Z hood om my 70 with working flapper door. I like the stripes with this hood personally.

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350, 700R4, 3.73 posi
&lt;&gt;&lt; "Roll with the pack or get left behind"
Drive it till it wears out, rebuild it, then drive it some more!
Pic of "The Blue Skunk" (http://members.aol.com/elinder00/FSEVENTY2.html)

I have an L88 on mine but its a 4" fiberglass pin on, click the camera above to see it. I don't know why everyone complains about them mine is very well made, finished up smooth as glass (no pun intended), and doesn't flop around. I absolutely love it and haven't had any problems with it except I have to add hinges with low tension springs soon because checking oil is a pita.

Hey hampster if your wanting to get rid of that L88, I would be more then happy to take it off your hands for you http://www.nastyz28.com/ubb/smile.gif Email me and maybe we can work a deal.

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70 Camaro, 350 sbc, T350, 2.5" dual exhaust w/ 40 series orig. flows, L88 lift off, Viper Red w/ black deck stripes...my Redheaded step child

83 Blazer 4x4, 472 Caddy powered, 9" lift, 38" swampers, d44, 14ff, 4.10's...my daily driver

Psychomaster and JDBlazer454 - where did you both get your L88 cowl hoods from??? Wondering how many different companies make the L88 style cowl hoods for second gens. I think the plain old aftermarket cowl hood style is prety ugly, but the L88 has a lot of style. Looking for maybe a 1-1/2 - 2" L88 scoop, 4" is too big. I don't need clearance, I just want cold air induction courtesy of my 80 Z28 air cleaner, and the good looks of the L88.

I might just remove the one that's fiberglassed/riveted to my hood and see if there's any way I can mount it like the 81 Z28 scoop, just do the hood without it and have it so that I could bolt it on from the underside and have a rubber seal set in a track (use the old router) around the edges - that way I could keep the L88 scoop that I already have, and not worry about the scoop cracking where it gets fiberglassed to the hood, cus it'll just sit on the hood. Not sure how this would look, and I'd rather have the steel L88 hood that http://www.showcars-bodyparts.com makes but that's $400!!!!! Ouch!

I was thinking I might either have to have exposed carraige bolt heads sticking out from around the edges of the scoop in a little recessed hole, or the other option(don't know how I could do this well) is to somehow bond studs to the underside. Doubt that would work out so well.

I also was thinking still about fabricating a flapper like the 80-81 Z scoop has, one that would fit the L88, and rig up one or two solenoids on the underside. I have a TH400 kickdown switch already on my car that I won't be using (swapping to 4 speed), so the wiring is already in place. Making a flapper like that wouldn't be too difficult. I may look into how I could make a bolt on L88 scoop look alright now. It'll be this winter before I do anything, but it sounds like a plan, and will cost me time, not $389 plus a ton of shipping!


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71 RS SS396 project in the works: B-body spindles w/1LE 12" ft discs / WS6 J65 TA 11.1" rear disc brakes, poly susp., 1.25" WS6 ft & 1" adjustable rr sway bars / 4 speed nodular case 3.42 wide ratio Super T-10 / 3.23 posi rear / 81 Z cold air induction (or L88 hood?)

Mine was already on the car when I got it but the previous owner said he bought it from Unlimited Products ( www.up22.com (http://www.up22.com) ). I am surprised at how many people like the look of the L88 but very few will run one themselves (we get tons of good comments at the cruises we go to). The underside of my hood was pretty rough when I got the car but I have since sanded it down and satin finished it. Fiberglass body pieces will have their flaws and need some work. I can't afford a steel L88 hood yet but if I could find one cheap enough who knows.

You have some good ideas on how to make a working cold air scoop with an L88, should test run one and if it works well patent it and market it. Could be good money in it.

I think all L-88 hods are 4".

I don't think that website sells the steel hoods anymore. They were in their catalog (three listings, two fiberglass part #'s that were g##### and one that was st####, but the steel one is no longer in there. Bummer.

I found a 1-1/2" tall L88 scoop on ebay. Also, my L88 scoop definitely isn't 4" tall in the cowl area.

The problem with running an aftermarket L88 scoop is that most of them are all open on the underside. I want a hood that my cowl induction air cleaner can seal onto. This makes me want to either fabricate a bolt on L88 scoop like I mentioned above, or just use the 80-81 Z28 "AIR INDUCTION" scoop. We'll see how it goes. If I do the L88 thing, I'm good with sheetmetal (it's what I do for a living, HVAC at least), and good fabricating and welding, so a flapper like the Air Induction scoop would be quite do-able if I were to make one for the L88.

<font face="Arial,Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by 70rat:
I think all L-88 hods are 4".</font>

No they aren't like a normal cowl hood they have differing heights. If you look around other L88's are shorter 2", 4", and have seen a 6" (too tall for me).

I know what your saying Chuck about being too much room under it as mine has tons of breathing room from the windshield forward and I can see the opposide headlight at night. The bolt on scoop onto a stock hood would work better for your idea to get the seal just right. Try to dig up some info on stock Baldwin Motions and see if they utilized something like that.

Motion Performance sells the same style of L88 cowl hoods as everyone else now, all open on the underside. They have a website, but it's more nostalgia than anything. If you want to order stuff from them (fiberglass camaro parts, like $329.99 for the L88 hood), you have to call Joel.

For future reference for anyone looking for Motion Performance contact info:

$329.95 plus packing, handling and freight. Please call from 10-5 EST to
order.
Thank you,
Joel Rosen
Motion Models
Main - 1-800-866-3172
Outside US 1-954-344-8512
Fax1-954-344-8870
www.motionmodels.com (http://www.motionmodels.com)