View Full Version : My "race-toration" progress.
KylePBZ 02-24-2008, 07:12:48 PM For those that don't visit the Competition section much. Rather than posting all the pics, here's the Photobucket link.
http://s244.photobucket.com/albums/gg10/KylePBZ/Camaro%20build/?albumview=grid
kik_start 02-24-2008, 07:27:24 PM Dang! Can't wait to see this finished!! Looks like quality work your doing there.
KylePBZ 02-24-2008, 07:37:03 PM I'm working on it! I got some more done today but forgot the camera. I'd consider myself a novice chassis guy right now. I'm doing this mostly myself. The boss is just helping out where I'm not sure of things and he'll do all the tig welding.
kik_start 02-24-2008, 08:05:38 PM Keep posting pictures because there are questions...but I'll wait to see what your doing before I ask. haha
I sure will like seeing the progress.
Are you going tub with a 4 link?
KylePBZ 02-24-2008, 08:23:13 PM It will be sorta mini tubbed. I'll be able to fit about a 30" tall tire but can go as wide as I want. I'll be running 315/60 radials or 29.5x10.5+ on 12" wheels. I don't personally like the BIG tire look. I prefer the 10.5 look. It'll have the heads up look but just be a bracket/street car. Keeping the "stock suspension" but it will be easy to change to a 4-link should I decide to later on.
Go ahead with the questions!
kik_start 02-24-2008, 08:29:25 PM Go ahead with the questions!
OK,,,
What's up with cutting the sub frame that way? I understand the bar in the middle for extra pan clearance but cutting the front and back rails short and the engine cross member in half up to the frame is where I get lost and don't know what the direction your heading.
It does look like good craftsmanship and I'll be watching this one...might even get to see it in person.
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg10/KylePBZ/Camaro%20build/100_2496.jpg
KylePBZ 02-24-2008, 09:06:31 PM OK, all of the sub frame mods are just for weight savings.The center part also opens up more room for headers. I wanted a Smith Racecraft tubular sub frame but can't swing the $2000+shipping for the bare unit. http://www.smithracecraft.com/70_81_camaro/C1FHC.html I cut off a little over 60lbs there. I'll only be adding about 5lbs of that back. The front horns are 10lbs ea., the center was 20lbs, the rears are 10lbs each. I'm putting the TRZ rack so the front stubs aren't needed. I have to have "through the floor" sub frame connectors so 1 5/8" chormoly tubing is a lot lighter than that stock subframe. I'm also doing a tube radiator support so that will knock off over 20lbs. Along with Autofab Race Cars tubular A-arms, fiberglass fenders, bumpers, and a few other things here and there. Should be less than 2,800lbs when I get done.
edit* I forgot that I hadn't figured in the rear floor/frame removal. That stuff was over 100lbs. .024 steel to replace it won't weigh much at all. So close to 2,700lbs race ready without me in it.
KylePBZ 02-27-2008, 09:46:11 PM Couple more bars in since the other day. Got the back of the funny car cage and the rear frame rails sat in.
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KJZ28 02-27-2008, 10:20:05 PM Lookin good!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Marks71BB 02-27-2008, 10:30:28 PM I am impressed!!! definatly be watching your build!!! Good job fo sho!!!
KylePBZ 02-27-2008, 10:37:17 PM Thanks fellas! I should have some more to report tomorrow night.
kik_start 02-27-2008, 10:38:48 PM Looking good! I can't wait till mine is done.
John Wright 02-28-2008, 07:54:56 AM Cage is taking shape!!! keep up the good work Kyle!
Urban Samurai 02-28-2008, 10:42:48 PM Kyle, I am very impressed. I would love to do that intense of a project on my own ride. Keep up the good work and continue posting.
Steve.
KylePBZ 02-28-2008, 11:04:24 PM Thanks again everyone! I would have got more done tonight but on Thursday evenings there's always half a dozen guys stop in to BS for a while. So, I only got the inner rear valance cleaned up, plated, and the frame rails actually fitted and tacked in. More to come Saturday!
KylePBZ 03-02-2008, 12:05:10 AM Got some more done today. Starting to look like something.
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woody80z28 03-02-2008, 01:38:42 PM Shouldn't flex much. haha
KylePBZ 03-02-2008, 08:06:11 PM That's the plan!
KylePBZ 03-09-2008, 11:56:02 PM Back at it!
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kik_start 03-09-2008, 11:58:54 PM Good grief...would you hurry up...LOL J/K
That is going to be sooooo awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You will cage mine when the time comes...I'm sold!
KylePBZ 03-10-2008, 12:01:51 AM Good grief...would you hurry up...LOL J/K
That is going to be sooooo awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You will cage mine when the time comes...I'm sold!
I'm trying! I should have the cage and suspension/steering all together in the next couple weeks.
Good deal! Let us know when we can help you out.
KylePBZ 03-10-2008, 12:03:02 AM Just a FYI, I've got about 50hrs in it now since I got it in the shop. That includes setting it up on the jig and all.
kik_start 03-10-2008, 12:07:31 AM I will talk more with you...but I want to save as much as I can (as usual) so maybe the off season and not quite as extensive as what your doing...
I'm thinking ladder bars with coil overs and a 6/8 point cage/roll bars and no tubs...
KylePBZ 03-10-2008, 12:20:23 AM Yeah for sure. Mine wouldn't be near this elaborate if I didn't work there. A 8/10pt. cage and ladder bars is a great setup that would be good down to 8.50 in the 1/4 and shouldn't break the bank. lol
Mr_Z27 03-10-2008, 12:24:11 AM Looks like it ought to hold up to that 350hp crate motor quite well.....
oops mistype, I meant 3500hp crate motor.....
KylePBZ 03-10-2008, 12:31:37 AM Looks like it ought to hold up to that 350hp crate motor quite well.....
oops mistype, I meant 3500hp crate motor.....
Nah, just trying to get the most out of the 600hp I've got now! :bowtie:
procharged 79 03-12-2008, 10:08:49 AM All I can say is WOW!!
It's really looking good. I assume this is a 25.5 or you going to do a 25.2? What class are you going to race and what are your plans for power?
John Wright 03-12-2008, 11:19:20 AM Kyle, will you try to fit some of the stock interior back in when you get done with all of that tubing....or is the interior history?
protour73 03-12-2008, 11:31:59 AM Kyle......I'm very, very jealous of your craftmanship skillz!!! awesome work, can't wait to to see the finished project......you will finish it .....right??:)
and you look to be within driving distance, once my car is done!!!;)
Red70Camaro 03-12-2008, 12:57:58 PM Nice work Kyle, that looks like a junglejim in there! Those are some nice notches on the tubing, no gaps!;)
KylePBZ 03-12-2008, 10:50:06 PM All I can say is WOW!!
It's really looking good. I assume this is a 25.5 or you going to do a 25.2? What class are you going to race and what are your plans for power?
Ya, 25.5. It's just a bracket car but you know how the "go faster" bug is! I just wanted to do it once for as fast as it will ever go and not have to add on or upgrade later. It's still all "stock" suspension too but will be easy to 4-link if I ever decide to. Keeping the same power plant I ran before, 421SB, AFR 220's, solid roller, etc.. It ran the times in my sig with only bolt in frame connectors. Should make a lot more efficient use of the power I have.
KylePBZ 03-12-2008, 10:55:29 PM Kyle, will you try to fit some of the stock interior back in when you get done with all of that tubing....or is the interior history?
It will have a stock looking VFN fiberglass dash, carpet, headliner, door panels, Kirkey Pro Street seats, the rear side plastics and sail panels. The rear floor will be .024 steel and carpeted like the rest of it. So, it will be as stock appearing as possible. Not a big fan of the all aluminum interiors. This thing will still be driven some.
KylePBZ 03-12-2008, 10:57:55 PM Kyle......I'm very, very jealous of your craftmanship skillz!!! awesome work, can't wait to to see the finished project......you will finish it .....right??:)
and you look to be within driving distance, once my car is done!!!;)
Thanks again! It WILL be finished! I am going to take the time and do the details right. Even if it does take me longer than I'd prefer.
Only about 5hrs south of you, come on down! lol
KylePBZ 03-12-2008, 10:59:59 PM Nice work Kyle, that looks like a junglejim in there! Those are some nice notches on the tubing, no gaps!;)
You have to be pretty precise with the chromoly. Can't leave near the gaps you can if you're mig welding it.
Looked at your sig pic, beautiful car by the way!:eek:
John Wright 03-13-2008, 08:42:59 AM It will have a stock looking VFN fiberglass dash, carpet, headliner, door panels, Kirkey Pro Street seats, the rear side plastics and sail panels. The rear floor will be .024 steel and carpeted like the rest of it. So, it will be as stock appearing as possible. Not a big fan of the all aluminum interiors. This thing will still be driven some.
That will be cool to see the interior put back in...glad you decided to keep from just panelling it up and calling it done. That platform is going to be plenty rigid once all of that is welded up....very cool.
KylePBZ 03-16-2008, 11:34:51 PM Getting closer every week.
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Keizer 03-16-2008, 11:38:19 PM Wow, that is certainly going to be a safe car to ride in!! Nice cage man! I didn't read through all the posts, but my first thought was.......how much weight does that finished cage add?
KylePBZ 03-16-2008, 11:54:32 PM Wow, that is certainly going to be a safe car to ride in!! Nice cage man! I didn't read through all the posts, but my first thought was.......how much weight does that finished cage add?
The cage adds 1.32lbs, per foot! So, somewhere in the 150-175lb range. But I cut out 100lbs in the rear and 60lbs out of the subframe. Along with a bunch of other weight saving stuff. I'm looking to be about 2,750lbs without me in it when it's all together.
ZS10 03-17-2008, 12:50:34 AM Did you still want the 'glass rear bumper? I'm going to put a coat of hi build on it this week so its 'sand and paint'.
Actually I want to make my door bars swing outs if you have/make kits...
KylePBZ 03-17-2008, 01:15:52 AM Oh ya! I've been so busy with all the other stuff I've had to buy that I forgot all about it. How much were you wanting again? We have swingout kits but I'm not sure how much they run. I'll let you know tomorrow evening.
KJZ28 03-17-2008, 01:36:04 PM The birdcage is coming out nice!!!
383Camaro79 04-01-2008, 06:58:58 AM how the progress Kyle? I miss seeing the daily update on this car. I want you to do mine when your done....
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