I don't know where to start with this thread. I can't locate the pics from when I first bought the car and you guys have seen most of the pictorials on smaller projects so.....

I don't think I ever posted up the final version of the fuel door emblem as it's mounted.

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/8479/emblemot9.jpg

I'll only cover this Winter's engine swap project now.

One month ago....
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Engine out, Clean-up Begins....
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Clean Enough.... for now.
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I need a bigger parts table....
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Reassembly Begins...
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/4024/boosermasterpw4.jpg

Things are going to fall into place quickly once I round up the last few parts.
Parts like..... An Engine!!!! :screwup:

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yep..look Like My Car ..we Need To Get On It

Looks like it will be ready for driving again this spring. I had no doubts that you would get it done. A man on a mission.

Looks like it will be ready for driving again this spring. I had no doubts that you would get it done. A man on a mission.

Yes... It Will!
(With leap year... I even have an extra day! ;) )

I'm going to enjoy putting my new and clean puzzle pieces back together.
I've never had the pleasure of working in an engine compartment without getting filthy. :D

i still need to take mine apart... but i have another one i need to put back together

My intake finally got here! :D

Old one on Left................................... New one on Right.
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9642/intakesja7.jpg
Weiand Action Plus. It's basically a Performer clone and should fit with the stock air cleaner and my rebuilt Q-jet. (I have a back-up plan if it doesn't. ;) )

Screwup in the shipping. Wrong street address and the zip code got wiped off the label in transit. It took two weeks to find its way here. :screwup:

More pics when I get it cleaned/painted.

thats great Terry....

Wow that is a screw up in shipping....;)

The intake is cleaned and painted....
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/3990/intakecleanedsd5.jpg

Oven cleaner to take off the heavy crud.
A scuff pad to finish it up the cleaning.
Paint prep. (Mineral spirits stuff.)
Two coats high-temp aluminum paint followed by two coats of clear.

I got this intake for $45 (shipped!) on Ebay.... It turned out very nice for the money and a couple hours of work. :D

Sexy

There's still something missing..... :crazy:

http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/9379/somethingmissingma4.jpg

Yes... It Will!
(With leap year... I even have an extra day! ;) )

I'm going to enjoy putting my new and clean puzzle pieces back together.
:D What are you gonna do if you have pieces left over:o It is coming along very well Terry:)

What are you gonna do if you have pieces left over:o It is coming along very well Terry:)

I know there will be pieces left over.... The entire exhaust system, EGR valve, a bunch of hardware, an intake and a 305 long block. ;)

What are you gonna do if you have pieces left over:o It is coming along very well Terry:)

left over pieces just means you outsmarted the engineers who built it ;)

looks good man. you're a lot further along than I am :o

I know there will be pieces left over.... The entire exhaust system, EGR valve, a bunch of hardware, an intake and a 305 long block. ;) The intake cleaned up real nice, after mine was done (the fire) I thought my intake was junk , but we bead blasted it and it cleaned up real nice

Yeah Terry your missing one important part the engine....;)

Be there next weekend to help you pick it up :)

But the intake looks really nice... great job..... You should see what i am doing now ;)

You should see what i am doing now ;)

??????????????????????

Do tell

That intake turned out sweet Terry, It needs something to bolt to:confused: LOL

Progress!!! gotta love it!!

One more step forward....
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This is my "Back-Up" plan for the air cleaner if I run into hood clearance issues with the Weiand intake and the stock (tall) 4-bbl air cleaner cover.
(It's a 1" shorter, 2-bbl lid but raised off the carb with 1/4" spacer.)
This combination gives me plenty of room for the 3/8" higher intake while retaining a stock "sleeper" look. :shy:

Yes, I know. I'll need a shorter stud.

Thanks to Damon for shipping me the lid and Rick (AGAIN!) for letting me use his blasting cabinet to clean these pieces! :cool:

The newly cleaned, tweaked and rebuilt carb is actually under there.
I guess clean doesn't matter much when it's completely hidden. :(

Terry

Your welcome.. Anytime you need to use my garage and tools you can....

Maybe we should start a donation campaign from the other members to get you an air compressor;)

You looked like a kid in the candy store using the angle grinder ;)

is the car running yet?what parts are you still waiting on?

Nice! Git er dun Terry!! LOL

Just giving you a bump because there should be a lot of pictures coming shortly.

Yeah hopefully tomorrow :)

Just giving you a bump because there should be a lot of pictures coming shortly.

I've got wrenchin' to do! :D
Thanks for reminding me to charge the camera battery, Rob!

Yeah you better take pic's of it from the dealership all the way home :)

Be there bright and early tomorrow Terry...

Havin' a few cold one's now to celebrate your transformation from the 305 to the 350...;)

That looks cool!!!

Yeah you better take pic's of it from the dealership all the way home :)

Be there bright and early tomorrow Terry...

Havin' a few cold one's now to celebrate your transformation from the 305 to the 350...;)
Can he drive and take pictures at the same time:screwup:

Can he drive and take pictures at the same time:screwup:

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3892/driverzi8.jpg

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3892/driverzi8.jpg

Isnt that exactly how fast you were going in the 1/8?!?!?!?!?!

Ouch. haha

Lookin good man.

Can't wait to see it back together! it will look sweet!

Isnt that exactly how fast you were going in the 1/8?!?!?!?!?!

I think you're absolutely right.... :rolleyes:
I had left the A/C on and still managed to beat the guy in the next lane. :p

I'm counting on some better numbers this year.....
Last year was just a benchmark and a budget.

I got my A/c bracket (for the back-ordered headers) today. The engine hardware will be here tomorrow or Monday.
I picked up gaskets and a balancer tool last night. More pics soon.....

Video?
One month... max. ;)

I'm getting excited. But I've got to get to bed... Rick is coming with his pickup tomorrow. Early.
Nice way to remember Leap Day.

OLooking good Terry. I can't wait to see time slips....Big improvement I bet.

Then next winter you might find a lil money for more go fast goodies...:D

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Is that with the overdrive transmission

Is that with the overdrive transmission

No... that was with the TH350 and 2.73 rear gears.
When I went to the OD tranny, the rpm dropped to 1500 at the same speed.
Now... with 3.42 rear gears... It's about 2000 rpm @ 60 mph.

Looks like your making good progress on the eng. swap !!! Getting all of those detail items will make the reassembly go faster. You should really like that Action-plus intake when you get into the throttle, it really responds !!!!
Now how bout' some engine porn ???????????? ;)

No... that was with the TH350 and 2.73 rear gears.
When I went to the OD tranny, the rpm dropped to 1500 at the same speed.
Now... with 3.42 rear gears... It's about 2000 rpm @ 60 mph.
Just curious.... trying to plot a course;) 3:23 gears through my th350 at about 2800 at 60 plus or minus alittle speedo not actual yet:rolleyes:

Not so much of a rip more of a intersting they were the same. That should be improving.

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nice work

Helped Terry pick up his new motor and it was in a nice crate. Hauled it to his house and got it on the engine stand, so he can do the final assembly.

Terry thanks for the beer and let me know when you want to drop that engine in.

He'll be posting pic's later.

I needed a NastyZ break.... I've been having too much fun in the garage today not to share it with all of you! :D

Thanks again to Rick for using his pickup and lending a hand to get this new addition in my garage!!!

Ther'es a reason they're called "Crate" engines.....
Loading it was easy at the dealer... Unloading it with an engine hoist went well after we took the top/sides of the crate off.
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/1857/crateengineoi7.jpg

Crate off... Mounted on stand, Balancer installed and intake set in place.
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/86/uncrateengineql0.jpg

I don't have my hardware kit yet so I just set a few things together to see how it looks. (I already repainted the new paint on the new water pump.... Cast grey didn't do it for me.)

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/7209/engineassemblyfrontlm9.jpg

Shots from both sides.......
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I'll have to undo/redo most of this assembly.... It was just trial fitting and a little game of Husker-du with brackets.

Rick and I did get the balancer and flexplate mounted today. Those aren't going anywhere!

Right ONNNNN!!!! Woot Woot!!! Looking dayum good Terry!!!

I do the mock up-tear down thing all the time!

Terry your interior design influence is coming out. Especially to repaint the water pump;)

Terry your interior design influence is coming out. Especially to repaint the water pump;)

Some things just look better than others.... We both thought it looks better this way. :)


Oh, I forgot to ask..... What was that cologne you were wearing?

;)

Looking great, Terry. I get excited seeing someone else's project coming along so well. I wasn't there too long ago myself.

Congrats.

Some things just look better than others.... We both thought it looks better this way. :)


Oh, I forgot to ask..... What was that cologne you were wearing?

;)

Ok yeah we both agreed it would look better that way...

Cologne what's that :screwup:

Oh by the way I'll be there on Saturday to help you drop that bad boy in...

Some things just look better than others.... We both thought it looks better this way. :)


Oh, I forgot to ask..... What was that cologne you were wearing?

;)
I thought you weren't supposed to ask, you supposed to sniff for yourself, isn't that what you like;) LOL
The motor looks great are you going to start it.... open headers so I can hear it run over here.... I'll be listening:p

Looking good Terry! I love that black on the engine. Still wish I had painted mine black instead of Chevy orange. Too late now though.

Alrighty!...Man that looks great, can't wait to see pics of it in it's new home.

Motor's looking fine Terry !!!!!! Bet you can't wait to light the fire on it !!!!!!!!
Hear the engine.............fear the engine !!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

!!!!!! Bet you can't wait to light the fire on it !!!!!!!!
Hear the engine.............fear the engine !!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

Terry and the engine will become one. :bowtie:

Mock-up of darn near everything! :D

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/2079/mockupvg2.jpg

About the only thing missing is the A/C compressor, wires, hoses and vaccum lines.

That looks sweet Terry:)

That there engine is lookin mighty sweet.

vacuum lines are over rated. You only need two or three to run everything. LOL

Gonna have to make a new donut vid... lol's:)

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It was looking so good before those shiny valve covers went on! haha Are they aluminum or chrome it's hard to tell in the pic. If they are aluminum I guess I can forgive you.

It was looking so good before those shiny valve covers went on! haha Are they aluminum or chrome it's hard to tell in the pic. If they are aluminum I guess I can forgive you.

They were satin aluminum before I tried to polish some spots out of them.
Now they're polished aluminum (but far from perfect.)

There will be NO chrome (none, zero, nada) in the engine compartment.
Not one bracket, bolt or aftermarket "bling" piece. If it's shiny... I polished it. ;)
I even ordered a stock dip stick and tube from GM in order to avoid sticking an aftermarket chrome one in the block.

LET THE WRENCHING BEGIN!!!!!


12-pt, black oxide, ARP bolts.
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/8117/boltkitkx8.jpg

The big brown truck showed up with my bolt kit today! :D

There's quite a few bolts in this kit I probably won't use. I will use the bolts I already have for things like the alternator bracket because they won't match the other accessory brackets if I only change those.
I will be using this hardware on the fuel pump, water pump, motor mounts, intake and maybe the headers. (I'll have to see what the hardware kit with the Hedman shorties looks like before I make that decision.)


Hmmmmm..... Do I want to bother with oil pan or timing cover bolts?
I guess I could swap them out one at a time but I'm a little leary of messing with them at all.
Who will ever see the oil pan bolts?

Well.... I'm off to the garage to make some more progress! :cool:

Go Terry Go....

Want to drop that bad boy in this Saturday you know..;)

Go Terry Go....

Want to drop that bad boy in this Saturday you know..;)

Ill be there.:)

just to let ya know those arp black oxide bolts rust like crazy, they wont be black for long. seem to rust faster than cheepie bolts, its arp's way of telling you to buy stainless next time.

You go Terry. I bet someone is excited!!!

just to let ya know those arp black oxide bolts rust like crazy, they wont be black for long. seem to rust faster than cheepie bolts, its arp's way of telling you to buy stainless next time.


I hope they don't. :(

I installed the intake, valve covers and water pump last night.
I changed out the timing cover bolts for the ARP ones too. No problems there.

Note: The ARP valve cover bolts weren't long enough for cast aluminum covers and the metal/rubber gasket I'm using.

My new headers came today and I've trial fitted them to figure out the hardware situation. They seem to fit great!

Note: The ARP header bolts aren't long enough to be used with the thick (3/8") flanges on the Hedman shorties.

There is no way in heck you can tighten a couple of the 12-pt bolts either. (Wrench/socket won't fit.)
I am using the hardware that came with the headers.
The ARP header bolts will be used for accessory bracket mounting instead.

I'm going to wear out the holes in this block trying so many arrangements of bolts. :screwup:

I'm going to wear out the holes

There fixed it for ya Terrry

Great to see its coming together for ya Terry, Don't know much about black oxide bolts, but could you dab a liitle clear coat on em to keep them from rusting:happy:

How much stuff can I leave on the engine and still fit it in the engine bay?

The way the headers fit (Hedman shorties) .... I think I could loosen them so they hang down and in a little.... They might fit while attached to the engine! (I could put the spark plugs in too.)


I have the motor mounts, intake, water pump and fuel pump on the engine now.
All other nuts/bolts and brackets are in place (finger tight).
I can pull most of the stuff off in seconds. (Putting them back on always takes more time.)

I've got the plug wires routed and held with spacers so I should be able to drop the cap on the dizzy and the wires will fall into place.
(I'm gonna number the wires too... Got noobs helping out this weekend. ;) )

This could be a very quick installation if I can have the headers, plugs and starter in place.

How much stuff can I leave on the engine and still fit it in the engine bay?

The way the headers fit (Hedman shorties) .... I think I could loosen them so they hang down and in a little.... They might fit while attached to the engine! (I could put the spark plugs in too.)


I have the motor mounts, intake, water pump and fuel pump on the engine now.
All other nuts/bolts and brackets are in place (finger tight).
I can pull most of the stuff off in seconds. (Putting them back on always takes more time.)

I've got the plug wires routed and held with spacers so I should be able to drop the cap on the dizzy and the wires will fall into place.
(I'm gonna number the wires too... Got noobs helping out this weekend. ;) )

This could be a very quick installation if I can have the headers, plugs and starter in place.

Fuel pump might foul you on getting motor mount bolt through. With AC, maybe leave one header on and one off to give some wiggle room. If radiator is out should go in easier too. Good Luck and post up when ya git er in !!!!

Who you callin a noob.

Ehhhh. Take out the radiator and you can fly a 747 in there.

I shoehorned a big block, bellhousing, 4-speed, with fuel pump and intake in all at once with no issues. Just make sure your hoist chain can't slide (a couple of small clevises on each side of the chain mount are added insurance).

I had to raise the motor up off the mounts about 2" to get the drivers side header on.

Putthe dizzy in after the engine drop in so you don't smash it on the firewall.

Don't sweat it....you got it.

Terry, I'm not tu sure about the headers but then I have never worked with shorties. With just putting in the motor the dizzy should be ok if in but it's not a bad idea to take it out.

I'm surprised you have not trial fitted the motor in the engine bay yet.;)

The radiator has been out since before the engine came out.

The dizzy will go in after the engine.... Gotta prime the oil and it's far easier to get to the tranny bolts and harness brackets from on top without the distributor in there.

I checked the clearance for the motor mount on the passenger side. The bolt can go in from the rear with the fuel pump in place. It would be a very close fit with the starter in place.
I like to connect the wires on the starter before I bolt it to the block. So... the starter will go in from the bottom.

I've got to go shopping.... Header gaskets, oil, filter and beer!

Almost forgot... new belts too!

I'm surprised you have not trial fitted the motor in the engine bay yet.;)

I considered it! :screwup:
I've been using a tape measure instead. ;)

Terry what time are we starting on dropping the engine in? Yeah and you better make sure you have enough beer... You got Rob and Patrick coming over too;)

Terry what time are we starting on dropping the engine in? Yeah and you better make sure you have enough beer... You got Rob and Patrick coming over too;)

I'm sure I'll have some last-minute stuff to do on Sat. morning.

Shall we start at Noon?


I don't think we'll be firing it Saturday because the exhaust won't be in and shorty headers would be pretty brutal.

BTW... Hedman doesn't warranty their high temp coating for engine break-in.
(I'll have to read the rest of the instructions.)

The parts guy at the dealer said a full 20 minute break-in wasn't needed for these crate engines..... "Just prime it and go.... It's under warranty."

Noon works for me. was preferring earlier though but whatever you want ....

I do say we start that bad boy up with the shorty's though that would be cool... Get a vid and post it on the forums

Noon works for me. was preferring earlier though but whatever you want ....

I do say we start that bad boy up with the shorty's though that would be cool... Get a vid and post it on the forums


Sound like Rob wants to start earlier too.
I didn't want to drag anyone out of bed too early on a Sat. (Especially me. ;) )

Hell I don't sleep in anymore. I will be up by 6:00 am on Saturday since we are fostering a puppy and the wife is bringing in another foster Saturday afternoon to our house.

Thats why i want to get out ;)

They were satin aluminum before I tried to polish some spots out of them.
Now they're polished aluminum (but far from perfect.)

There we be NO chrome (none, zero, nada) in the engine compartment.
Not one bracket, bolt or aftermarket "bling" piece. If it's shiny... I polished it. ;)
I even ordered a stock dip stick and tube from GM in order to avoid sticking an aftermarket chrome one in the block.
That's what I like to hear! haha

I have successfully de-chromed everything but the door locks and the ign & sig switches. They're living on borrowed time though.

The parts guy at the dealer said a full 20 minute break-in wasn't needed for these crate engines..... "Just prime it and go.... It's under warranty."

What do you need me to bring?

Priming tool??
Timing light???
Anything else???

Then lets fire the bish then!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You tell him Patrick.. We want to hear it run ;)

.... "Just prime it and go.... It's under warranty."

Upon further thought WTF kind of statement is that!!!!!!!!!!!!

They pre-ran the motor before crating it.....

Thats how I interpret it

They pre-ran the motor before crating it.....

Thats how I interpret it



Don't count on it. On mine the distributor was 180 degrees out right off/out of the crate. Wayne and John still did a 20 minute break-in - regardless.

They pre-ran the motor before crating it.....

Thats how I interpret it

Perhaps the actual conversation was different but what this says to me is. I dont care what you do give me your cash and move along its under warranty. Perhaps im wrong im just not very trusting that way. :confused:

I "think" or "thought" that some one told me that they run them in on LP before they crate them up.

I "think" or "thought" that some one told me that they run them in on LP before they crate them up.

Yes... They do. You could see a wisp of carbon on the exhaust valves when I peaked in through the ports. There was oil in the corners of the lifter valley too.

This isn't a GM Perf Parts engine. It's the Universal replacement 350.

It makes sense for them to pre-run them to be sure they are sending a good engine to their dealers. Dealers don't want to tie up service bays and technicians for engine break-in precedures or find they have a bad engine on first fire and have to redo it.
I clarified the warranty.... There is no requirement for a GM tech to install it or inspect the installation. Just keep the receipt. It's warranted from the date of purchase..... 3 yrs or 100,000 miles.

I then asked how they could warranty an engine if they weren't involved in the install, start up or break-in.

What the guy at the counter said was: "You don't need a break-in. Drop it in and go. They've been run... we do it all the time. Follow the start-up procedure and it will be covered under warranty."

He was basically saying.... Quit being a Sally and drive the damn thing already! :shy:

I made an executive decision last night..... The engine is going to be installed with the shorty headers in place! (I'll notch the frame before I give up on that idea.)

I mounted the headers last night. I used the Percy's Dead Soft aluminum, reusable, burn/blow proof gaskets and torqued them down good. (They squish a lot!)

I measured the gaping hole between the frame rails and around the tranny..... There's room to spare with these headers. You could almost install them by tossing them in from across the garage! I don't see any clearance issues with them going in while mounted solidly in place to the heads. :cool:
Much easier to torque them down good BEFORE your access to those bolts by the A/C box gets limited.

Let's plan on meeting around 10 AM.

Rob... Antifreeze.
Rick... I've already got your hoist and stand. Bring a bottle opener. ;)
Pat... Oiler and dial-back light.
Terry.... Garage, car, tools, engine, hardware, beer and pizza.


Don't count on it. On mine the distributor was 180 degrees out right off/out of the crate. Wayne and John still did a 20 minute break-in - regardless.

They had the distributor right.... just got the engine in backwards!

Sounds like we will be making noise sat then!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sounds like we will be making noise sat then!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yeah we better with that many people around:)

Good luck Saturday Terry and get video! The video will sound like poop with the open headers but we still want to hear it!!!

Oh and Terry why do I need to bring the bottle opener aren't they twist off's ;)

If there not use your teeth.... :)

Whats all this talk of bottle caps;) I want something that I pour into a glass using a five count and then give it a splash of coke or 7up and then mix it with my greasy finger:D

Whats all this talk of bottle caps;) I want something that I pour into a glass using a five count and then give it a splash of coke or 7up and then mix it with my greasy finger:D


What's this talk of a greasy finger?

Oh... you must be volunteering to be the guy under the car with the tranny and motor mount bolts. THANKS!!!!! ;)

What's this talk of a greasy finger?

Oh... you must be volunteering to be the guy under the car with the tranny and motor mount bolts. THANKS!!!!! ;)


Yep you got your volunteer right there ;)

Hey if I can hide under there and sip my drink through a straw, I'm game. :cool: Beside I know you guys are not going too fit under there:screwup:

I think we have everything lined up. :D

Let's light the fire and make some noise tomorrow! :cool:

I think we have everything lined up. :D

Let's light the fire and make some noise tomorrow! :cool:

Good luck on the install !!!!! Git er' done !!!!!! :D

:confused:

:confused:

I want to thank Rob, Rick, Ricky and Pat for pitching in on this project today.
I would have had a conniption if I was trying to do this job myself.

I wanted to fire it up today but it just wasn't in the cards. :whine:

We blew about 3 hours trying to get some "performance" motor mounts to work. They sat about 1/4" too high and the combination of the two proved to make it impossible to sit the engine down. :mad:

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/9646/motormountsxq0.jpg

A trip to Autozone for different mounts cured that issue. (Thanks, Pat!)

We had a good time and we were eventually successful in planting the motor in its new home! :D

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/9159/engineinstalledpg0.jpg



Rob was right... I should have test fit the engine. ;)

BTW.... We proved that installation with shorty headers bolted solidly to the block is possible!!! :cool:
(When you have the right motor mounts.)

I plan on firing it tomorrow to make some noise and a video.
It still needs antifreeze and torque converter bolts.

(When you have the right motor mounts.)

...;)

Terry I was glad that I could lend a helping hand. It was even better that the engine was bolted in before I left. I wish I could have stayed longer but it was best that I left when I did.:screwup: Thanks for letting me make your driveway wider than it started out. Pat thanks for the four wheel drive help.:p

Terry I was glad that I could lend a helping hand. It was even better that the engine was bolted in before I left. I wish I could have stayed longer but it was best that I left when I did.:screwup: Thanks for letting me make your driveway wider than it started out. Pat thanks for the four wheel drive help.:p

Anytime!!!! Nice seeing you again.

I fired it!!!! :D
We've got the distibutor off a tooth or two though. Want's to pop and die instead of idling. :(


Gotta get some sleep.....
I have all day tomorrow to sort out a couple of bugs I've found already. :D

Thanks again guys!!!!
I can't imagine how I would have ever done this without all of your help.

I'll be waiting for the burn out vids terry!!

sleep well, it will all work out in the end.

Good for you guys helping out!! This Buds for you!!

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Nice progress, you'd think that shootin the mounts the bird they would've given in, and werked...LOL

Nice progress, you'd think that shootin the mounts the bird they would've given in, and werked...LOL
I don't know about the mounts, but I always feel better after I vent with a one finger salute;) Terry's probably bent over the fender moving the dist. as we speak:)

Thanks for letting me help and my back sure feels it this morning. Need to take some more advil. Rob and Pat it was nice seeing you guys again, always a fun time.

Terry once again you amaze me with your fortitude to keep on wrenching and tweaking into the wee hours. Can't wait to see the vid and hear that baby run.

I fired it!!!! :D


w00t! love those first few breaths from a new engine!!! and the smell of those new gaskets and paint curing for the first time....Mmmmm!

w00t! love those first few breaths from a new engine!!! and the smell of those new gaskets and paint curing for the first time....Mmmmm!
Stop it John youre turning me on.... LOL

Stop it John youre turning me on.... LOL

Whoa! TMI bro...TMI!!

Congrats Terry !!!!!!!! Hope you get a vid. clip together soon !!!!!!! So is it too soon to think about upgradin that new mill yet ???? LOL..........kiddin ;)

Whoa! TMI bro...TMI!!
LMAO, yup to much winter, not enough Camaro exposure;)

Okay..... I'm heading back to the garage to see if I can get the dizzy stabbed correctly this time. :confused:

I know how to do this but I seem to be suffering from a bout of lysdexia today and moving it the wrong direction. :screwup:

Okay..... I'm heading back to the garage to see if I can get the dizzy stabbed correctly this time. :confused:

I know how to do this but I seem to be suffering from a bout of lysdexia today and moving it the wrong direction. :screwup:
I have admitted to this before but one time (at band camp) I wired the dizzy on hole off.... number one up front to the right.... mine needed to be the next hole back;)

:D :D IT'S :D ALIVE :D :D


I still need to adjust the carb and timing but I got a quick video!

Now.... I can't seem to get the video out of the camera in a usable format. :( (Patience...... I'm working on it. ;) )

:D :D IT'S :D ALIVE :D :D


I still need to adjust the carb and timing but I got a quick video!

Now.... I can't seem to get the video out of the camera in a usable format. :( (Patience...... I'm working on it. ;) )
I have popcorn and my favorite chair ready:)

Damn Terry you tease... We want video... Wish i could have been there for that :)

Try this video link:

http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=ye29t&s=3

Open headers.... Hedman shorties!
The video isn't too bad sound wise.... It's quite loud right now. :shy:

Try this video link:

http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=ye29t&s=3

Cool!!!!!!!!:) :) :bowtie:

Sounds like sweet music to me!

Cool!!!!!!!!:) :) :bowtie:
COOL+1 and look how shiney everything is:cool:

Terry thats sounds so sweet. Nice job.:)

You should drive that bad boy that way ...;)

Terry thats sounds so sweet. Nice job.:)

You should drive that bad boy that way ...;)


I don't think I would make it across town before getting pulled over.
When you touch the throttle... it gets REAL LOUD!!!
(My ears are ringing right now. :crazy: )

Sounds Great !!!!!!!!!!! That'll take the edge off of winter !!!!!!!!!!! :D

I don't think I would make it across town before getting pulled over.
When you touch the throttle... it gets REAL LOUD!!!
(My ears are ringing right now. :crazy: )


Well get Cal on the camera and you in the car revving it up. I really want to heart that motor....

Loud is GOOD :)

One more teaser vid.....
Turn your speakers up to 11! :D

http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=290zdqu&s=3

My digi-cam can't capture the roar very well.
I don't want to screw up anything by revving the heck out of it. :o

When you said teaser, you weren't kidding! Sounds good, Terry. I'd have to take it for a romp that way before putting the exhaust on, lol!

One more teaser vid.....
Turn your speakers up to 11! :D

http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=290zdqu&s=3

My digi-cam can't capture the roar very well.
I don't want to screw up anything by revving the heck out of it. :o


We want more....

Drop it off the jack stands and pull it out of the garage.

It sounds so good that way...:)

So at 2 am tonight Im expecting to hear full exhaust vids!!!!!!;) ;)

So at 2 am tonight Im expecting to hear full exhaust vids!!!!!!;) ;)
I just ran it @ 2000 RPM for 10 minutes. It never went much over 160* (stock gauge, 185* thermostat.)

I don't want to push my luck with the neighbors or hearing loss. :eek:


My ears are ringing and my neighbors must be wondering what the racket is about. Open shorty headers make side-dumped "Cherry Bombs" seem tame!

Gotta get to work on that exhaust system after finishing a couple details under the hood. (wiper motor, cruise control and a little rerouting of some wires.)

There's still a little paint smell but the headers didn't discolor at all and the carb seems pretty close to where it should be. I didn't get any nasty, eye-burning exhaust either. It's running petty clean. :D

I think we can consider this a completely successful engine install! :cool:

Sounds great man!!

I just ran it @ 2000 RPM for 10 minutes. It never went much over 160* (stock gauge, 185* thermostat.)

I don't want to push my luck with the neighbors or hearing loss. :eek:


My ears are ringing and my neighbors must be wondering what the racket is about. Open shorty headers make side-dumped "Cherry Bombs" seem tame!

Gotta get to work on that exhaust system after finishing a couple details under the hood. (wiper motor, cruise control and a little rerouting of some wires.)

There's still a little paint smell but the headers didn't discolor at all and the carb seems pretty close to where it should be. I didn't get any nasty, eye-burning exhaust either. It's running petty clean. :D

I think we can consider this a completely successful engine install! :cool:


HUH What did you say I cant hear anything...LOL..:)

Glad it is running the way you like it Terry... Nice job and enjoy the ride this summer... I am jealous but someday I will be riding down the road in a camaro.;)

ok terry, you have had a bit of time to get some more pics posted....whats the deal?

ok terry, you have had a bit of time to get some more pics posted....whats the deal?


I've been working on hanging the exhaust..... I've got the muffler and pipes hung. I won't hang the tail pipes until everything else is in place.

The THRUSH 2.5" system fits beautifully!
They give you plenty of length in tubing (gotta trim it down).

There is enough there that you could connect shorty heders if you had a way to fabricate a 45* bend and flare on the end of the extensions.
Long tube headers would be a straight bolt-up job after shortening the pipes a bit.

I just ordered 2-45* elbows to make the connection. They will need to be shortened and welded to the the extensions. (I'll probably have a local shop flare the extension ends and weld them here once I get a good fit.)

I'll have pics when I get the elbows to show what needs to be done to make this system work.

One step backward......

I noticed a little dribble of oil on the tranny while I was figuring out the exhaust fit at the headers..... The rear of the intake manifold is leaking fresh oil on the new clean engine. :(

I thought I got the rubber strips to seal.
I bolted up the intake while the engine was on a stand and it all looked good.

This time I'll use RTV on the ends.
Too bad I got everything else assembled in the engine compartment before I found the leak, I'm just glad I didn't have the hood on too.

I'm still hoping to get the exhaust done this weekend. The intake may have to wait a few days now.

One step backward......

I noticed a little dribble of oil on the tranny while I was figuring out the exhaust fit at the headers..... The rear of the intake manifold is leaking fresh oil on the new clean engine. :(

I thought I got the rubber strips to seal.
I bolted up the intake while the engine was on a stand and it all looked good.

This time I'll use RTV on the ends.
Too bad I got everything else assembled in the engine compartment before I found the leak, I'm just glad I didn't have the hood on too.

I'm still hoping to get the exhaust done this weekend. The intake may have to wait a few days now.

Minor stuff Terry with the intake leaking. Using straight RTV on the ends is the way to go.

That engine sounds good. That is going to be a whole different car to drive!!

I meant to say something about the intake Terry but it was already done. The rubber ends that come with the kit should be promptly thrown in the garbage and replaced with a thick bead of the correct silicone.

I'm still hoping to get the exhaust done this weekend. The intake may have to wait a few days now.
What wrong with leaving the exhaust the way it is?? LOL
BTW we dont even use the rubber gaskets, we just rtv both ends (not just the corners)

I thought I got the rubber strips to seal.
.....................This time I'll use RTV on the ends.


Well, if those rubber seals don't leak when you fired it up...it will later once the rubber gets hot a few times and dries out and shrinks and gets brittle. RTV is your friend on those ends of the intake and then a big ole gob right where the metal gasket ends. I like to use the high temp red...but others have their preferences.

edit: whoops Harry typed faster than I did....

we dont even use the rubber gaskets,

Yup, they go in the garbage with the box.

edit: whoops Harry typed faster than I did....

Mark that down on your calendar John, that ain't goona happen often;) I musta had a head start

I was aware that most members here pitched the rubber end seals but I've had good luck with them on two or three other intake swaps.

I guess my luck ran out. :(

And if you ever change a oil pan gasket, use the new 1 piece design over the two cork strips and rubber ends. They seal up so much nicer.

And if you ever change a oil pan gasket, use the new 1 piece design over the two cork strips and rubber ends. They seal up so much nicer.

I have to agree with you on that. My Camaro is the first chevy I have ever owned that does not leave a drip of oil on my concrete floor.

Terry say it ain't so.... Already an oil leak and it hasn't even made it out of the garage.:(

Well get the silicone out like others have said and that will solve your problem.

You know that rubbers never work;)

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http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u281/BTTB71SS/gifs/0028.gif

I have to agree with you on that. My Camaro is the first chevy I have ever owned that does not leave a drip of oil on my concrete floor.

After 132K and 29 years my 79 does not leak at all. And yes, it is up on fluids. I was very shocked.

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u281/BTTB71SS/gifs/0028.gif
You guy's done for the day or did Terry fly solo

You guy's done for the day or did Terry fly solo

Terry flew solo on this one.... Had other things planned so I couldn't help him out

Terry flew solo on this one.... Had other things planned so I couldn't help him out
That way if he rev'ed it again only one guy goes to jail LOL

That way if he rev'ed it again only one guy goes to jail LOL


Yeah i don't ever want to meet Bubba...;)

Boy and this thread about a motor got more views then mine and I'm doing a lot more work then him ;)

Yeah i don't ever want to meet Bubba...;)

Boy and this thread about a motor got more views then mine and I'm doing a lot more work then him ;)
What can I say.... people dig ear hair;)

What can I say.... people dig ear hair;)
LMAO...

Green you coming to the party in August at my place...


Inquiring minds want to know.....

LMAO...

Green you coming to the party in August at my place...


Inquiring minds want to know.....
I have submitted it to the board of review, all I have heard so far is Boy you sure wanna do a lot of sh#t this year, I really wanted to get to Carlisle but im gonna be 2 weeks early the way our plans are shaking out:(

I have submitted it to the board of review, all I have heard so far is Boy you sure wanna do a lot of sh#t this year, I really wanted to get to Carlisle but im gonna be 2 weeks early the way our plans are shaking out:(

OK....

Sounds like Terry finally got her in from the other post....

He went with a quiet system:mad:

I really liked the shorty sound:)

^^^^ Friggin' Hijackers!!!! :rolleyes:


Yeah... I finished the exhaust only to have yet another little problem.

Here's a worm's eye view of the exhaust and Alstons SFC's from the side...

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/8800/sfcandexhaustlf3.jpg

The tailpipes.... (Too long, IMO)
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2158/tailpipestw4.jpg

Adapters to fit the Hedman Shorties to this exhaust..... The lower part comes with the Hedman's.
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/4030/shortyadaptersif6.jpg


Mods to the front extensions....
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2131/extansionspe4.jpg


Finally.... A video (http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=111qflt&s=3)! :D


It's running now but when I first hit the key... No spark! :(

I pulled a spare ignition module off the "Great Parts Shelf" in my garage and swapped it over.

Hit the key and.....











BLAM!!!

The unburned fuel from my previous attempt blew and bulged my new muffler. :mad:

It still works, doesn't leak and it fills out the space beteen the fuel tank and rear housing even better now. :screwup:

Tomorrow... I replace the intake gasket.

The tailpipes.... (Too long, IMO)
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2158/tailpipestw4.jpg



I think they look fine from the picture.

I think they look fine from the picture.


They're okay but..... 5-6" longer than the stock ones they replaced.

They're okay but..... 5-6" longer than the stock ones they replaced.

What are you shooting for? Were they factory length before? How hard is it to cut them shorter?

What are you shooting for? Were they factory length before? How hard is it to cut them shorter?

Cutting them on the car.... You wouldn't get a neat cut.
They will work fine the way they are.

For me.... It's a perception thing from looking at shorter, smaller, stock tailpipes for 30 years. :crazy:

Terry the tail pipes look nice and the sound is great. I know you weren't looking for a loud rumbler and the last exhaust was to quiet. I think you did pretty good, how does it sound from inside the car?

Terry the tail pipes look nice and the sound is great. I know you weren't looking for a loud rumbler and the last exhaust was to quiet. I think you did pretty good, how does it sound from inside the car?
Looks like it fits real nice,tucks up real nice, what did you do for clamps, do the neighbors approve;)

Terry they look just fine that length.

What time are you starting on the intake... I might swing by today and give a hand if I can figure out the schedule here.

They look great Terry! They give lots of ground clearance...it really makes me want to look into those shorty headers.

It's running now but when I first hit the key... No spark! :(

I pulled a spare ignition module off the "Great Parts Shelf" in my garage and swapped it over.

Hit the key and.....











BLAM!!!

The unburned fuel from my previous attempt blew and bulged my new muffler. :mad:

It still works, doesn't leak and it fills out the space beteen the fuel tank and rear housing even better now. :screwup:

Tomorrow... I replace the intake gasket.

Terry,

That new vid. of the exhaust sounds great !!!!! About the exhaust backfire part, that was too funny LOL...............well for what it's worth, that kinda crap happens sometimes. Good Luck with the rest of the proj. and I'll bet you can't wait to get er' on the road now !!!!!!!!!!!

Paul :D

Terry,

That new vid. of the exhaust sounds great !!!!! About the exhaust backfire part, that was too funny LOL...............well for what it's worth, that kinda crap happens sometimes. Good Luck with the rest of the proj. and I'll bet you can't wait to get er' on the road now !!!!!!!!!!!

Paul :D
It coulda been worse, it could have blown it all a part;)

Terry the tail pipes look nice and the sound is great. I know you weren't looking for a loud rumbler and the last exhaust was to quiet. I think you did pretty good, how does it sound from inside the car?

Thanks, Rob! I haven't heard it from inside yet.

Looks like it fits real nice,tucks up real nice, what did you do for clamps, do the neighbors approve;)

I used the clamps that came with it. I thought about using stainless bands clamps but didn't have the patience to wait for them.


Terry they look just fine that length.

What time are you starting on the intake... I might swing by today and give a hand if I can figure out the schedule here.

This afternoon sometime..... I'm about to drain the antifreeze and buy another ignition module.

Hey Terry, I was looking at Camaros last night on ebay. I still say your exhaust tips look totally fine. I would not feel bad at all sporting those tips around town.

The tailpipes.... (Too long, IMO)
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2158/tailpipestw4.jpg


A coat of flat black would make them look even better.

I used the clamps that came with it. I thought about using stainless bands clamps but didn't have the patience to wait for them.


You could've done a little ear hair trimming to pass the time,He He..... wifey just looked over my shoulder and asked "ear hair????" so I showed her..... yup that grossed her out...lol

I got the intake gasket changed out yesterday! :D
I've still got a leak.... same place. :mad: :mad:

I used "The Right Stuff" on the end rails and the blue Fel-Pro gaskets around the ports.
I'm starting to think the intake might be warped but I won't know for sure unless I take it off.... AGAIN! :screwup:

I got the intake gasket changed out yesterday! :D
I've still got a leak.... same place. :mad: :mad:

I used "The Right Stuff" on the end rails and the blue Fel-Pro gaskets around the ports.
I'm starting to think the intake might be warped but I won't know for sure unless I take it off.... AGAIN! :screwup:
And its not the oil sender either

Even if the intake did have a slight warp the bead of silicone that you put on should have been more than enough to make up for a minor tweekage in the intake. Did you let it set up before starting it?

Even if the intake did have a slight warp the bead of silicone that you put on should have been more than enough to make up for a minor tweekage in the intake. Did you let it set up before starting it?

You're supposed to assemble the parts within 5 minutes of laying down "The Right Stuff". The instructions say to "Torque and Go" with it.

It's thicker than Ultra Black RTV and doesn't have that greasy feel to it. It's more the consistency of thick toothpaste.
I can't imagine it didn't stick to freshly prepped surfaces. (The intake, block and heads were scraped and wiped squeaky clean with brake cleaner.)

It was well over an hour before we started it by the time we got everything else back in place.
Maybe I should have waited over night.... I dunno. :(

I sit possible that you have a leaking oil sensor or a leak from your dizzy? You can try rubbing a bead on the outside of the intake and then let it set up over night and see if that helps.

Terry after we got that baby running nicely you still have a leak.....:mad:

I wouldn't have waited over night to place the intake on though. You did everything correctly. We just need to find the culprit of the leak.

What the hell...Could be a warped intake but I would check the oil sensor or the dizzy area for leak. You could do what Rob suggested and place some on the outside of the intake and block....

Dizzy and sending unit are dry.

I only find oil if I sneak my hand between the block and firewall on the passenger side. I get a bead of oil on my finger tip when running it along the seam between the block and intake. It could be from the head corner and following the seam but it's definitely the intake.

Dizzy and sending unit are dry.

I only find oil if I sneak my hand between the block and firewall on the passenger side. I get a bead of oil on my finger tip when running it along the seam between the block and intake. It could be from the head corner and following the seam but it's definitely the intake.

Sure its not left over from the first leak?

"The Right Stuff" is what I used on my intake, and it worked fine. I don't recall how long I waited to sit the intake on though.

For what it's worth, here is the thread I started on the topic.
http://www.nastyz28.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8410&highlight=intake+install

It's kind of far fetched but could it be a valve cover leak that is finding it's way down the intake. The only way that could happen is oil splashing around inside the valve cover and getting on top of the upper gasket surface and then soaking through. Grasping at ideas here.

Rob that an interesting idea but could be a possibility.

If your intake was that warped that you could'nt get the ends to seal, I would think that you would have serious vacuum and oil burning from air and oil getting sucked into the intake ports. Yes, brand new intakes are not always straight and true (ask me I know) I fought with mine for 3 years before finding out that was the problem to my excessive oil consumption in my engine. I took mine into a machine shop and had it checked and sure enough it was out of whack so they trued it up. I always knew the oil consumption was coming from leaking intake gaskets but could not figure out why as it was a new intake and I tried 3 different kinds of intake gaskets.

I'm with Rob on this one, check your valve cover gaskets.

The valve cover gaskets are perfectly dry every place I can get my finger on them. :D (Perma-dry plus steel core gaskets.)

It can't possibly be warped that much. I must have gotten a liitle air pocket in the very corner when I first pumped the goo on the rail and not gotten the very corner sealed.

I stuck a glob of the sealant on my finger and pressed it in as well as I could after wiping the oil off. I'm gonna let it sit until tomorrow to see if it helped.

Wish me luck!

Has anyone ever used the Fel-Pro gaskets with the self-adhesive end rails?

Terry

Got my fingers crossed for ya...:)

Good luck Terry, remember ya do have till April 1 and still be on schedule;) or until it gets to 70 degrees:o

I think I got lucky....

I smeared a gob of "The Right Stuff" into the seam last night. Let it harden for 5 hours and ran the engine for 10 minutes at idle to warm it up good.

I ran my finger along the seam this morning and all I felt was dry Permatex....
Not a speck of oil! :cool:

I think I got lucky....

I smeared a gob of "The Right Stuff" into the seam last night. Let it harden for 5 hours and ran the engine for 10 minutes at idle to warm it up good.

I ran my finger along the seam this morning and all I felt was dry Permatex....
Not a speck of oil! :cool:


Glad you got it figured out there Terry....:D

Glad you pinned it down!!!

I'm glad you found it Terry, now can you put the hood on??

I'm glad you found it Terry, now can you put the hood on??

That's the plan for tonight! :D

That's the plan for tonight! :D
Did you paint the under side of it first ;) LOL

Did you paint the under side of it first ;) LOL


Nope... it still has very solid 15 year old red paint on the underside.

It needs cleaning or an insulation mat to hide some of the A/C oil that got splattered on it when I had a leaking front compressor seal. :(

Terry,

Glad to hear that you got a handle on that intake leak !!!!!!!! Seems like all engine swaps usually have some debugging to do...........:cool:

Paul

No hood tonight.... We were screwing around with the vacuum advance, timing, carb settings and brake bleeding. We never got around to it.

It looks like I had the vacuum advance hose hooked up wrong. :screwup:
We moved it to a different port but that didn't help with the carb pop I get on quick acceleration.

I found the correct diagram and will properly route the vacuum stuff I have left before attempting the carb tuning again.

Update:

I bought some new vacuum hose and routed the distibutor vacuum advance correctly.... It pulls even MORE advance into the timing now!!!!
(45* @ 750 RPM - idle. :eek: It was 35* when connected to the "wrong" port. 8* with the advance disconnected.)

Is it any wonder I get a carb pop on quick acceleration?

None of the local auto parts places carries an adjustable vacuum advance can. I'm gonna order one from Jegs.....

I tore apart the brakes on the wheel where the bleeder got FUBARed and replaced the cylinder. I managed to NOT wreck anything else! :D

Thanks for the brake pics, Keiser!

Sounds like progress Terry.

Just waiting on the burnout!!

Glad ya fixed the brakes. They is important!!!

Holy Cow Terry 45* of advance now UF-DA

Glad you got the wheel cylinder changed out without any other issues.

Terry just put a mechanical stop on the vac advance so that it can only advance just so far and then hit the stop.

edit #1: BTW...GM cans are marked, the last part of the P/N is the max advance

edit #2: maybe this will help
http://www.73-87.com/7387garage/drivetrain/hei.htm

Fantastic article, John!


The info confirms what I suspected and the Crane adjustable advance is out of stock at Jegs & Summit. :(

Spend the 30 bucks and get it recurved, ditch the vacuum crap and call it good.:)

Fantastic article, John!


Agreed!

thanks for the article John. Saved as favorite, I'll look into it when I get her on the road and ready to tune.

John great article.I have saved it as well and will keep it for future reference....

Spend the 30 bucks and get it recurved, ditch the vacuum crap and call it good.:)
Your highway mileage will be off by about 5 MPG and your plugs will load up with crud within just a few thousand miles. For a race car or a weekend street/strip car this is probably no big deal. For a street car, forget it.

Also they forget to mention that it is a contributing factor of higher engine temps.

I don't remember for sure if it was oneofkind67 or ignitionman who helped me out several years ago but once I got my HEI setup the way it should it made a world of difference.

Spend the 30 bucks and get it recurved, ditch the vacuum crap and call it good.:)
Your highway mileage will be off by about 5 MPG and your plugs will load up with crud within just a few thousand miles. For a race car or a weekend street/strip car this is probably no big deal. For a street car, forget it.

Also they forget to mention that it is a contributing factor of higher engine temps.

I don't remember for sure if it was oneofkind67 or ignitionman who helped me out several years ago but once I got my HEI setup the way it should it made a world of difference.

Terry, I am pretty sure that "most" of the aftermarket vacuum advance cans in the mags are going to require the mechanical stop to limit your overall advance. I got mine from summit and after setting up the timing accordingly, the overall advance ended up way out in right field. Had to put in the mechanical stop on mine also.

Timing problem solved! :D

I'm an idiot. :screwup:
I had the #6 & #8 plugs wires switched around at the distributor end.
(They were labeled correctly at the plug end but somehow got switched around in the time between the engine stand setup and the engine installation.)

I've got to redo the timing and adjust the carb again.

The "Jackstand Era" is quickly drawing to a close. :D

That solves the miss I was hearing in the exhaust. Glad you are making progress.

Your highway mileage will be off by about 5 MPG and your plugs will load up with crud within just a few thousand miles. For a race car or a weekend street/strip car this is probably no big deal. For a street car, forget it.

Also they forget to mention that it is a contributing factor of higher engine temps.

I don't remember for sure if it was oneofkind67 or ignitionman who helped me out several years ago but once I got my HEI setup the way it should it made a world of difference.

Terry, I am pretty sure that "most" of the aftermarket vacuum advance cans in the mags are going to require the mechanical stop to limit your overall advance. I got mine from summit and after setting up the timing accordingly, the overall advance ended up way out in right field. Had to put in the mechanical stop on mine also.

Ive never had a problem.

Your highway mileage will be off by about 5 MPG and your plugs will load up with crud within just a few thousand miles. For a race car or a weekend street/strip car this is probably no big deal. For a street car, forget it.

Also they forget to mention that it is a contributing factor of higher engine temps.

I don't remember for sure if it was oneofkind67 or ignitionman who helped me out several years ago but once I got my HEI setup the way it should it made a world of difference.

Terry, I am pretty sure that "most" of the aftermarket vacuum advance cans in the mags are going to require the mechanical stop to limit your overall advance. I got mine from summit and after setting up the timing accordingly, the overall advance ended up way out in right field. Had to put in the mechanical stop on mine also.


My car is and was set up the same way with no problems. Advancing the timing actually makes the car run hotter, but with this happening at higher sppeds it's not a factor.

Vacuum advance must simply be for emissions then. ;)

That solves the miss I was hearing in the exhaust. Glad you are making progress.
Oh goody this means another video!

The hood is on and the wheels are on the ground.

I took it to the local car wash and sprayed the Winter's accumulation of dust off.
I noticed it wanted to start in 2nd gear (200-4R).... TV cable adjustment coming right up!

I suppose you guys want more pic and video now. :rolleyes:
Maybe tomorow. ;)

The hood is on and the wheels are on the ground.

I took it to the local car wash and sprayed the Winter's accumulation of dust off.
I noticed it wanted to start in 2nd gear (200-4R).... TV cable adjustment coming right up!

I suppose you guys want more pic and video now. :rolleyes:
Maybe tomorow. ;)
How's it feel Terry, did it put a smile on your face

Video!!! we demand video!!

Woot Woot!!!! Bet yer excited as all get out!!

Video!!! we demand video!!

Woot Woot!!!! Bet yer excited as all get out!!
Your chipper tonite Mark..... long weekend??:p

Congrats Terry, I'm looking for another parking lot vid :D I want smoke from both tires now :P

Crap... Camera batteries are dead. :(
I'll try to get some shots/vid before dark.

Crap... Camera batteries are dead. :(
I'll try to get some shots/vid before dark.
Can you do doughnuts and shoot film at the same time:confused: The neighbors are gonna be POed...lol

I'm home alone right now.
Can't do a burnout vid today. :(

I'm home alone right now.
Can't do a burnout vid today. :(

lol I figured you would post a picture of a box of doughnuts in your car;)

Rats! Well I'll still be waiting ;)

I'm home alone right now.
Can't do a burnout vid today. :(


If you dont have a tri-pod just set the camera on the ground or a box or something. C'mon Terry just DUIT!!:D

I'll be standing by as well..

Here is a little hold me over for your guys.

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s3/bbc_nova/th_100_1282.jpg (http://s148.photobucket.com/albums/s3/bbc_nova/?action=view&current=100_1282.flv)

Terry,,,
How come you didn't call.... ;) Me and Pixels would have been over there in a few minute's just to tape it.....:)

I got busy with creating an "Exploded" view of the dash...
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/4332/dashgw9.jpg

Speedo cable oiled and a couple of pesky light bulbs reseated.
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I got the dash put back together and pulled it out into the sun today...

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Does anyone remember what the engine looked like when I started?
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/9539/beforebw4.jpg

I popped the hood to see how a natural light shot of the engine bay looked like on camera now.
(I'm no longer ashamed to open the hood for the curious.)

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A "stance" shot at a very low angle to show the Alston SFC's and the exhaust height.
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Yes... That's still snow in front of the car.






Here's an "Idle Video" (http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=6qvcqt&s=3) to show you guys it is road worthy for April 1st!


Okay.... Enough Teasing.
If the weather allows. I'll shoot for an April 1st burnout as complete proof I could hit my goal.
(I still have a radio to fix but it won't stop me from making a vid.)

Terry you did good...;)


The car looks awesome.....:)

Terry you did good...;)


The car looks awesome.....:)
Agreed! awesome job and attention to detail!!!

Terry you did good...;)


The car looks awesome.....:)

..+1

Where is that fricking go faster button?????

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OHHHHH There it is

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s3/bbc_nova/080330enginemk7.jpg

Patrick were you down at Terry's today?

LOL, Pat! :D

I do believe I've found another setting for the "Faster Module" now. :cool:

BTW.... The stock 4-bbl air cleanerr fits with a Weiand Action Plus intake.
There's only about 3/8" to spare though. Maybe I should have gotten "Performance" motor mounts to prevent it from rocking too much?
(Inside joke for the guys who helped install by "Go Faster" module.)

Patrick were you down at Terry's today?
Rick... That was a pic from the race track last year. The engine compartment is MUCH cleaner now. ;)

I love being able to post pics with NO photoshop fixing again. :D

It looks real nice Terry:crazy:

I really like that color. That is one sharp looking car.

Man, that engine bay looks brand new!!! Your hard work payed off big time. Congrats!! I am going to scroll back up now and look again!! :eek:

I'm back! That engine bay looks like it should be on one of the GM pamphlets.

Going back for another peek.

Thanks, Doug!
I know you're a very detail-oriented guy too. ;)

There's a couple of vacuum hoses missing (charcoal canister and Cruise Control), a big-azz fuse for the stereo added, some dings in the air cleaner and a couple of other little things that could be improved upon.

However.... It's NOT a trailer queen. I'm pretty satisfied with it and think I've gone a little overboard on some things. I drive it several thousand miles a year and the hood only comes up every couple of months for general maintenace. I'll probably be pi$$ed the next time I open it and see something has leaked.
(I'm glad I found a PS hose leak today.... Stripped hose clamp. The fan was blowing it to the belt and beyond. :eek:)

I've still got an issue with the tranny. It doesn't want to shift to first from a dead stop. (Unless I manually put it there.)
I've re-adjusted the TV cable but it isn't cooperating yet. :(

The rear-end is still howling too. I'll probably have to take it to a GM dealer before this deal is resolved.

I guess these car projects are never perfect....

Man you did a nice restoration of that engine bay!!!!

Looks like quality and allot of pride went into it.

Man you did a nice restoration of that engine bay!!!!

Looks like quality and allot of pride went into it.

Restoration?!?

The car was "born" a V6.... There's almost nothing in there besides the A/C that came with the car from GM. It's all GM parts but much of it came from my 78. (Except the long block, intake, carb, valve covers, air cleaner and headers. ;) )
Only the intake, headers and valve coverrs are aftermarket parts.

I made it look the way I thought "The General" should have made it look from the factory.
I considered "Corporate Blue" at one point..... I don't think it would have looked as good with the red fenders as it does this way.
If I was restoring a Z28, I would have done it differently.

The exhaust note is very non-stock too.
My son heard it earlier today and said, "I can't lie to ya, Pops.... It sounds pretty bichin'!"

His car somes out of storage next weekend. I might have some competition for him this year! :D

Nice work! :) sounds great

Restoration?!?


The exhaust note is very non-stock too.
My son heard it earlier today and said, "I can't lie to ya, Pops.... It sounds pretty bichin'!"

His car somes out of storage next weekend. I might have some competition for him this year! :D


That traverse muffler must breathe pretty good then... can't wait to see it in action;)

The exhaust note is very non-stock too.
My son heard it earlier today and said, "I can't lie to ya, Pops.... It sounds pretty bichin'!"

His car somes out of storage next weekend. I might have some competition for him this year! :D
Sounds good, nice work.

Me and my father go back and forth all the time. He's building a Cuda and his plans change depending on what day of the week you talk to him. One day it's "That Camaro will be seeing Cuda tail lights" and the next it's "Well it's only going to be a show car, I don't care if it's fast."

Looks good Terry. I hope to get a ride after all of this snow melts.

It was 60 and sunny all day here. Why am I not watching a burnout vid?????:bowtie:

LOL, Pat! :D

I do believe I've found another setting for the "Faster Module" now. :cool:



Does it go to 11??

Here is what Terry has been up to today

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4PhDj6SZZA

Ok Terry posted here and in BS section.... Enjoy.....;)

Fabio's hair blowing in the wind...... that one made me lose it. roflmao!
My gut is still hurting. Good job Terry!

Fabio's hair blowing in the wind...... that one made me lose it. roflmao!
My gut is still hurting. Good job Terry!

When is your donut video going to be posted? :D

Mine was a few days late, due to snow :( ... I want a date, Mark! ;)

Ok Terry that redeems you from your peg leg video...LOL

Ok Terry that redeems you from your peg leg video...LOL
LOL the silly string shooter photo was fah;)